I hope this has not already been posted. I find it very disturbing

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by JJIII

Or the kid might have continued to beat Zimmerman's head against the ground until he was dead. Why don't we not speculate and wait until all the facts are out?

Because speculating is fun. If Zimmerman had ceased to follow the kid around when he was told to, we wouldn't be havng this conversation. Which is one reason why I believe he is a wannabe Chuck Norris vigilante nincompoop. But, it's not up to me to decide his fate, nor is it yours. As you said,
That's up to the court.

Dave

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Don't worry, the racist "white hispanic" will be lynched regardless what happened. Our "white black" president will see to it, he needs more racial division right now.

BS.

Unfortunately, we will never have the opportunity to hear the kid's version of events.

Regards,

D-Ray

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by barbara

Seriously..... A kid is going to beat a man who out weighs him to death?

I think death is far more certain with a gun added to the situation than without the gun.
But, I am in agreement that there are more facts to come out.

According to some reports/witnesses the kid had the upper hand. I wasn't there so I don't know. If Zimmerman thought that it was either the kid or himself what was he to do? Same question goes the other way. All we do know is that someone is dead and a lot of people who weren't there seem to know exactly what happened and are willing to act. No good can come from that kind of reaction.

[piece-itpete]

I keep thinking of the old saying, size doesn't matter

It's true. Heart and skill matter at least as much as size in a fight.

Pete

[BlueStreak]

So, do you think he's guilty, John?

Dave

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by JJIII

Or the kid might have continued to beat Zimmerman's head against the ground until he was dead. Why don't we not speculate and wait until all the facts are out?

I know you love your guns but this kid is dead.

and just why did Zimmerman get his head banged?

Because the kid was defending himself against a guy who was following him.

This making the victim the criminal is very distressing.

This is a perfect example of how guns turn average Joe's into tough guys and why we need these damned guns off the streets for good.

I have run into "tough guy with a gun" syndrome many times in my life, thank God I have never been successfully victimized by them.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by JJIII

According to some reports/witnesses the kid had the upper hand. I wasn't there so I don't know. If Zimmerman thought that it was either the kid or himself what was he to do? Same question goes the other way. All we do know is that someone is dead and a lot of people who weren't there seem to know exactly what happened and are willing to act. No good can come from that kind of reaction.

He should have never put himself in that situation. He caused all this with his actions.

No one is disputing this.

[d-ray657]

This article appears to provide evidence on both sides of the story. Some witnesses support the shooter, others dispute his version. A fact-finder other than the police department needs to have the opportunity to review all of the evidence, most likely a grand jury. If the police decide that the evidence supports an arrest, a judicial officer will have the opportunity to determine whether the evidence supports a finding of probable cause to conclude that a crime occurred.

Regards,

D-Ray

[piece-itpete]

If we're offering opinions it currently looks like Zimmerman was doing his 'job' as a neighborhood watchman, and that the police were correct in not arresting him.

Although the whole incident is sad. Too bad the kid was violent.

If this is all appearance driven (and it sure looks to be that way) the parents taking out trademarks on slogans sure look bad. I do understand there are good reasons to do so, however I'm also not standing on a corner with a pitchfork and a noose.

Btw, there are big differences between neighborhoods that need bars on windows and those that don't. My experience has shown me that it's neighborhood involvement, and what the residents tolerate.

Pete

[JJIII]

What Don said in post #88.

I think Zimmerman opened himself up to a world of trouble when the 911 dispatcher told him to lay off and he continued to follow the kid.

While we are speculating, what if he had just stayed within sight distance until the police had arrived. Chances are they would have checked both parties out and sent them both on their merry ways. That's not what happened though, so now we have to determine what actually took place as best we can and go from there. IMO that doesn't include offering rewards for the guy "Dead or Alive".