Poor Ben.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

On both sided.

So it will continue until one side decides that it's time to earn the trust of the other.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Boreas

That should be the side with the most power and the most to lose.

Really? Why more one side than the other?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Really? Why more one side than the other?

A gesture of reconciliation is better than a gesture of capitulation.

[donquixote99]

Why is it that your answer to everything is 'look how awful they are?'

Why should any Palestinian, listening to a fellow like you, believe for one second that they have anything but endless oppression and cruelty to look forward to from the Israelis?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Why is it that your answer to everything is 'look how awful they are?'

Why should any Palestinian, listening to a fellow like you, believe for one second that they have anything but endless oppression and cruelty to look forward to from the Israelis?

Nobody should listen to a fellow like me unless they decide they want to pay me for it.

Today, non-Jewish citizens of Israel constitute about 25% of the population, with 20% being Arabs. Arab Israelis have equal voting rights and their own political parties, serve on the Israeli Knesset, Cabinet, and Supreme Court; hold diplomatic positions; actively participate in the Israeli music and arts scene; and represent Israel on the national soccer team, including winning the Israeli national championship. They are granted all fundamental civil liberties, including freedoms of religion, speech, and assembly, and in fact enjoy more civil rights than Arabs living in any other Middle Eastern country. Israel is also the only country in the Middle East where Arab homosexuals can live without fear of prosecution, which is why many Palestinian gays have fled for Israel.

As a general indicator, a recent Harvard study found that 77% of Arab Israelis would rather live in Israel than in any other country. Many Arabs have also stated that they would much rather live in Israel than under Palestinian rule.

What a steaming pile of fucking propaganda, eh don?

Hummus joint offers a 50% discount to Muslims and Jews who will dine together.

A merchant in Gaza City who decided to make an offer like this would be burned out by Hamas leaders in less than a week. Then his well meaning ass would be dragged out into the street, shot in the head, and have his corpse dragged around town by the ankles behind a ratty motorbike.




Nah...don't listen to me.

[donquixote99]

All you've done is double down on how awful they are.

What kind of people used to love to go on about how happy and well-off their blacks were?

Show me a story where an Arab won a lawsuit against a Jew in Israel, and the judgement was fully enforced.

israels-supreme-court-legalizes-segregated-communities

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Why is it that your answer to everything is 'look how awful they are?'

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

A merchant in Gaza City who decided to make an offer like this would be burned out by Hamas leaders in less than a week. Then his well meaning ass would be dragged out into the street, shot in the head, and have his corpse dragged around town by the ankles behind a ratty motorbike.

I think you just made DQ's point.

[Rajoo]

Roger Waters, Perfect Sense Part 1, Album 'Amused to Death'

And the Germans killed the Jews
And the Jews killed the Arabs
And Arabs killed the hostages
And that is the news

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I think you just made DQ's point.

Like Feynman used to say, what do you care what other people think?

Anyway, DQ thinks the Jews are the bad guys...I think the jihadists are the bad guys.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

A gesture of reconciliation is better than a gesture of capitulation.

OK...sure. I'm still unclear why that means the victims of terrorism should be the ones to show the trust when it's pretty clear that no trust has been earned. It ain't the Israelis who have been spouting how they're going to wipe the planet clean of non-Jew infidels.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Roger Waters, Perfect Sense Part 1, Album 'Amused to Death'

Tom Lehrer, "National Brotherhood Week"

Oh, the protestants hate the catholics,
And the catholics hate the protestants,
And the hindus hate the moslems,
And everybody hates the jews.