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Old 08-19-2014, 10:35 AM
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I thought that was my point.

PS - nobody hates Israeli Jews any less, or considers them the enemy any less than anybody did in 1946. So saying Jordan and Egypt aren't Israel's enemies is pretty much a steaming load of horseshit. Sit down with any candid Saudi multimillionaire oilman and ask him about Jews. He'll tell you Jews are scum. It's the same pretty much all over the region. And it's not just Israeli Jews...it's just Jews.
Non-believers and rivals. I wonder if targeting Arab millionaires would shut off funding to the radicals.

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Old 08-19-2014, 11:24 AM
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I doubt there's a way to cut the oil money back.

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Old 08-19-2014, 11:39 AM
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I thought that was my point.

PS - nobody hates Israeli Jews any less, or considers them the enemy any less than anybody did in 1946. So saying Jordan and Egypt aren't Israel's enemies is pretty much a steaming load of horseshit. Sit down with any candid Saudi multimillionaire oilman and ask him about Jews. He'll tell you Jews are scum. It's the same pretty much all over the region. And it's not just Israeli Jews...it's just Jews.
When Muhammad and his followers arrived in Medina there were three Jewish tribes. When he died there were none. The animosity has been there since the beginning.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:26 PM
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When Muhammad and his followers arrived in Medina there were three Jewish tribes. When he died there were none. The animosity has been there since the beginning.
Yep. I find it interesting however, that most lefties react with hostility when one goes back any further than 15 minutes before the end of the '67 war in developing a historical basis for the situation now.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:45 PM
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It's because their movement/counter culture/American subculture was born in the 60s.

Personally dude, I'm not getting fooled again.
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Old 08-19-2014, 03:41 PM
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It's because their movement/counter culture/American subculture was born in the 60s.

Personally dude, I'm not getting fooled again.
Hey! It's my movement/counter-culture/subculture as well. Some of us emerged more unscathed than others. I saw Billy Ayers on FOX being interviewed by Legs Kelly the other night. I wanted to reach through the TeeVee and slap him.
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Old 08-19-2014, 08:29 PM
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I doubt there's a way to cut the oil money back.

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Old 08-19-2014, 08:38 PM
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Sounds like something Sun Tsu would recommend. The Israelis are sharp on the tactical/strategic dynamic.
Not really, anymore. Their last foray into Lebanon was considered a big fuck-up in Israel and there's a lot of frustration and war-weariness with what's happening in Gaza. They really don't want to fight anymore, yet they don't want to make any concessions to Hamaz.
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Old 08-19-2014, 08:40 PM
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I thought that was my point.

PS - nobody hates Israeli Jews any less, or considers them the enemy any less than anybody did in 1946. So saying Jordan and Egypt aren't Israel's enemies is pretty much a steaming load of horseshit. Sit down with any candid Saudi multimillionaire oilman and ask him about Jews. He'll tell you Jews are scum. It's the same pretty much all over the region. And it's not just Israeli Jews...it's just Jews.
By no stretch of the imagination is Jordan an enemy of Israel's. I crossed the border between Israel and Jordan last November. No fuss, no muss.

The Arabs who are relatively friendly with Israel (Egypt and Jordan) are getting tired of what they perceive as heavy-handedness in Gaza though.
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Old 08-20-2014, 08:07 AM
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By no stretch of the imagination is Jordan an enemy of Israel's. I crossed the border between Israel and Jordan last November. No fuss, no muss.

The Arabs who are relatively friendly with Israel (Egypt and Jordan) are getting tired of what they perceive as heavy-handedness in Gaza though.
So you're telling us that Jordanian Arabs love Israeli Jews like brothers and we're all going to a joint falafel/gefilte fish bbq at the wailing wall later this week and encourage our children to intermarry. I'm so behind the times.
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