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11-29-2014, 10:52 AM
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I post links because I found the articles interesting and thought I would share them for others to peruse. Not because they act as a replacement for my own thoughts.
I leave that up to religious folks who must refer to their "Holy" books before making their own thoughts known. (Because they have no thoughts of their own.)
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Quit wasting my time Dave.
I don't want no discourse, don't post any links, just give me your opinion and let me decide. Better yet let me tell you exactly what I think and forgo the preamble. Deal?
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11-29-2014, 10:56 AM
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The metaphorical symbols of injustice are leading us down a bad path.
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11-29-2014, 11:00 AM
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A professor of criminal law, criminal procedure, and crime victims' rights at the S.J. Quinney College of Law at the University of Utah analyzes the forensic evidence and witness testimony and concluded that the physical evidence was consistent with Wilson's testimony and that the grand jury had no evidence that effectively contradicted Wilson's testimony.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...d-the-officer/
He further states "Perhaps the reason for this disinterest in the ballistics report, autopsies and other similar information is that for at least some of Brown’s supporters the facts are, apparently, largely irrelevant because Brown is a metaphorical “symbol” of injustice regardless of what actually happened."
This last statement is certainly true of a number of folks on this board.
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And from a well known TV commentator, if that's what one calls Nancy Grace.
Darren Wilson: Nancy Grace Attacks Officer’s Story Of Michael Brown Shooting— ‘It Doesn’t Add Up!’
http://www.inquisitr.com/1640399/dar...n-nancy-grace/
And who do you think the masses are watching and hearing. I do not watch any TV programming so am only quoting from what I have read.
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11-29-2014, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BeamOn
And from a well known TV commentator, if that's what one calls Nancy Grace.
Darren Wilson: Nancy Grace Attacks Officer’s Story Of Michael Brown Shooting— ‘It Doesn’t Add Up!’
http://www.inquisitr.com/1640399/dar...n-nancy-grace/
And who do you think the masses are watching and hearing. I do not watch any TV programming so am only quoting from what I have read.
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That crazed witch has exactly zero credibility.
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11-29-2014, 11:05 AM
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That crazed witch has exactly zero credibility.
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Yes to people like you and I who read and verify information. We are in the minority. But the masses? They believe what they hear. As an example I give you Fox News where the word news is a misnomer.
Let's not even consider the impact of social media.
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11-29-2014, 12:42 PM
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While Nancy Grace lacks credibility, two sitting assistant DAs in Missouri/Illinois and one former assistant Missouri DA are wondering what crack pipe McCulloch and his associates are huffing on, ie they are on the verge of professional misconduct.
Many are fine with the travesty of McCulloch willfully using the grand jury to cover for the fact that he would not state he would not pursue a trial, but you folks would also have great trouble if he sought a trial for bending to the mob's will.
Uh, isn't that what he just did with the grand jury?
If you have no case to prosecute, then you also have no case to bring before a grand jury. And the DA's office presented no case to the grand jury.
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11-29-2014, 12:51 PM
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Here is more on Ferguson GJ process. How do you answer this?
Prosecutor Manipulates Grand Jury Process to Shield Officer
"You know the fix is in when a suspect who shot an unarmed man voluntarily provides four hours of un-cross examined testimony to a grand jury without taking the Fifth."
Something to really to think about, prosecutor questioning the suspect before a Grand Jury.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marjor...p_ref=politics
Edit: Forgot to post the link, sorry Zero.
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11-29-2014, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BeamOn
Here is more on Ferguson GJ process. How do you answer this?
Prosecutor Manipulates Grand Jury Process to Shield Officer
"You know the fix is in when a suspect who shot an unarmed man voluntarily provides four hours of un-cross examined testimony to a grand jury without taking the Fifth."
Something to really to think about, prosecutor questioning the suspect before a Grand Jury.
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Agreed. Something stinks to high heaven here. This GJ investigation was conducted in a very peculiar fashion.
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11-29-2014, 01:32 PM
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Given the evidence available and the consistency between Wilson's statement and the physical evidence (already obvious in an internal investigation), this grand jury should have never convened to begin with. It was convened solely in an attempt to assuage the angry mob. However, the angry mob was never really interested in the particulars of this case. They were using the case as an opportunity to express their anger over a myriad of issues (aggressive policing, poverty, unemployment...), facts (of this specific case) be damned.
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11-29-2014, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Given the evidence available and the consistency between Wilson's statement and the physical evidence (already obvious in an internal investigation), this grand jury should have never convened to begin with. It was convened solely in an attempt to assuage the angry mob. However, the angry mob was never really interested in the particulars of this case. They were using the case as an opportunity to express their anger over a myriad of issues (aggressive policing, poverty, unemployment...), facts (of this specific case) be damned.
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I would have to agree with this. The grand jury is designed as a tool to indict, period. Its sole purpose was bastardized in this case and there is no way they could come back with 5 untrue bills and not cause skepticism.
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