Political Forums  

Go Back   Political Forums > Politics
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 06-20-2012, 01:32 PM
piece-itpete's Avatar
piece-itpete piece-itpete is offline
What, me worry?
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Land of the burning river
Posts: 21,227
Yep, English, what what old chap stiff upper lip bitter kippers bread pudding and all that As a kid I had to bow and my younger sister had to curtsy when we were introduced to adults, and a brass plaque on the bathroom door said 'England expects every man to do his duty' lol.

Rob I'm pretty sure her license was unmarked but that's probably changed here now. I do remember her 'green card' was actually pink.

Pete
__________________
"America is still a land of promise, especially during a political campaign."
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 06-20-2012, 01:43 PM
bhunter's Avatar
bhunter bhunter is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Diego California
Posts: 3,272
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow View Post
[I]For the May issue of the Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science, we commissioned some of the most meticulous research done to date about the effects of immigration on a cross section of American communities — urban, suburban and rural.
If you have the time the articles contained in the above issue is worth the read. Here's the link to the intro article.

http://ann.sagepub.com/content/641/1/6.full
__________________
Dear Optimist: Unless life gives you water and sugar too, your lemonade will suck.
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 06-20-2012, 05:40 PM
BlueStreak's Avatar
BlueStreak BlueStreak is offline
Area Man
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,451
Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylander View Post
Why is everyone pussyfooting around the true story. We all know damn well Repub business owners will not do any serious hiring until after the election.
And there you have it. I have a former HS classmate who lives in Michigan. She and her husband own a small, local freight service with about 10-12 trucks. She's been posting her thoughts on FB and stated that she and her husband are doing exactly as you have described..........

They've been taking vacations in Europe and the Carribean, posting beautiful pictures on FaceBook of their travels. Use the money to expand their business? Not until after "...that SOB is gone from the Whitehouse." Now, it's their business, and I certainly believe they have the right to do as they wish with it.

But, the point is that to place the blame for unemployment solely on the shoulders of the president when you have people like that, behaving childishly as I believe they are, speaks volumes.

"Give me what I want, or I'll choke off the economy!" This is exactly the sort of behavior the right has accused unions of engaging in for decades.

And, this is why it is imperative that we DON'T give them what they want....until they get it through their thick skulls that they just can't have it.

Dave
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 06-20-2012, 06:34 PM
bhunter's Avatar
bhunter bhunter is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Diego California
Posts: 3,272
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak View Post
And there you have it. I have a former HS classmate who lives in Michigan. She and her husband own a small, local freight service with about 10-12 trucks. She's been posting her thoughts on FB and stated that she and her husband are doing exactly as you have described..........

They've been taking vacations in Europe and the Carribean, posting beautiful pictures on FaceBook of their travels. Use the money to expand their business? Not until after "...that SOB is gone from the Whitehouse." Now, it's their business, and I certainly believe they have the right to do as they wish with it.

But, the point is that to place the blame for unemployment solely on the shoulders of the president when you have people like that, behaving childishly as I believe they are, speaks volumes.

"Give me what I want, or I'll choke off the economy!" This is exactly the sort of behavior the right has accused unions of engaging in for decades.

And, this is why it is imperative that we DON'T give them what they want....until they get it through their thick skulls that they just can't have it.

Dave
So the same people that the left demonizes for their insidious love of money and their greedy ways are now not trying to make money because they don't like Obama? It's far more likely that the uncertainty that Obama has engendered by his policies and rhetoric produced the current lack of hiring.

Last I looked, there were plenty of democrat business owners and CEOs. Are they also part of this proposed cabal to destroy Obama?
__________________
Dear Optimist: Unless life gives you water and sugar too, your lemonade will suck.

Last edited by bhunter; 06-20-2012 at 06:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 06-20-2012, 07:02 PM
bobabode's Avatar
bobabode bobabode is offline
Admin
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Behind the Orange Curtain in California
Posts: 38,327
Illegal immigrants are the most docile of all workers. Just what the repubs want.
They wouldn't dream of joining or starting a union. Simple.
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 06-20-2012, 07:30 PM
BlueStreak's Avatar
BlueStreak BlueStreak is offline
Area Man
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,451
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhunter View Post
So the same people that the left demonizes for their insidious love of money and their greedy ways are now not trying to make money because they don't like Obama? It's far more likely that the uncertainty that Obama has engendered by his policies and rhetoric produced the current lack of hiring.

Last I looked, there were plenty of democrat business owners and CEOs. Are they also part of this proposed cabal to destroy Obama?
The end justifies the means, even with greedy capitalists. And if you can afford to hold out for what you perceive as a greater reward down the road---the promise of even lower taxation, a more docile labor force and stripping away of what YOU perceive as "onerous" regulation? Yes, of course they will, and you know it.

"Uncertainty" my ass. I'm sick and tired of hearing that bullshit, just as I am sick and tired of the assertion that there is no such effort.

Dave
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 06-21-2012, 07:34 AM
piece-itpete's Avatar
piece-itpete piece-itpete is offline
What, me worry?
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Land of the burning river
Posts: 21,227
So why is Ohio doing better? The thieving businessmen here aren't toeing the line?

Pete
__________________
"America is still a land of promise, especially during a political campaign."
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 06-21-2012, 08:42 AM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is offline
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 26,553
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak View Post
"Uncertainty" my ass. I'm sick and tired of hearing that bullshit, just as I am sick and tired of the assertion that there is no such effort.

Dave
The future is uncertain and the end is always near.

The Doors - Roadhouse Blues
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 06-21-2012, 09:40 AM
BlueStreak's Avatar
BlueStreak BlueStreak is offline
Area Man
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,451
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow View Post
The future is uncertain and the end is always near.

The Doors - Roadhouse Blues
That's right, the future is always "uncertain" and the end can come at any time. Morrison may have been a drunken wierdo, but he wasn't stupid.

Dave
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 06-21-2012, 09:51 AM
icenine's Avatar
icenine icenine is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: San Diego via Vermilion Ohio and Points Between
Posts: 11,547
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhunter View Post
It's far more likely that the uncertainty that Obama has engendered by his policies and rhetoric produced the current lack of hiring.Last I looked, there were plenty of democrat business owners and CEOs. Are they also part of this proposed cabal to destroy Obama?

Actually businesses are not hiring because they are learning to get by without hiring. Outsourcing, the information efficiency brought about by the web, and the ability to sit on profits and to make more profits with the same amount of resources is dictating hiring decisions by the job creators. That couple Dave is talking about...they are not hiring because they do not feel the need to hire...they are just using Obama as an excuse. Of course when Mitt Romney is President the floodgates of employment will open...

Japan still has the elavator operators and the gasoline attendants...inefficient yes, but people with incomes increase buying power.
Important, buying power, especially in a recession.
__________________
Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:22 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.