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06-20-2012, 10:43 AM
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Why is everyone pussyfooting around the true story. We all know damn well Repub business owners will not do any serious hiring until after the election.
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06-20-2012, 11:06 AM
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You want Bush's legacy Petey?...just look around you...
only a well read history buff will know where I copped that line and yes it is a very unfair comparison sorry for that.
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06-20-2012, 12:34 PM
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For the May issue of the Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science, we commissioned some of the most meticulous research done to date about the effects of immigration on a cross section of American communities — urban, suburban and rural.
The scholars who participated were in remarkable agreement: while new immigrants are poorer than the general population and face considerable hardship, there is no evidence that they have reshaped the social fabric in harmful ways.
America is neither less safe because of immigration nor is it worse off economically. In fact, in the regions where immigrants have settled in the past two decades, crime has gone down, cities have grown, poor urban neighborhoods have been rebuilt, and small towns that were once on life support are springing back.
Scholars can’t say for sure that immigration caused these positive developments, but we know enough to debunk the notion that immigrants worsen social ills.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/20/op...mmigrants.html
I think most dispassionate, reasonable people knew this to be true already. It raises the question as to why the GOP is hanging their hat on being such flaming @ssholes to the immigrant community. I suppose they need another bogeyman to join the gays and welfare queens.
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06-20-2012, 12:36 PM
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So we should encourage illegal immigration?
How did a kid get all the way through school illegally?
Pete
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06-20-2012, 12:42 PM
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So we should encourage illegal immigration?
How did a kid get all the way through school illegally?
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No, but we should do comprehensive immigration reform, something the GOP is violently opposed to in favor of silly rhetoric about building electrified fences, moats and alligators.
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06-20-2012, 12:44 PM
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What, me worry?
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Or perhaps drivers licenses?
Pete
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06-20-2012, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
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So we should encourage illegal immigration?
How did a kid get all the way through school illegally?
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Immigrant doesn't mean illegal, Pete. The study was about immigration in general. That's the trouble with this right wing anti-immigrant campaign. It demonizes any immigrant, regardless of their status.
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06-20-2012, 01:05 PM
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I'm sorry John, I was referring to Robs' comment about a girl going to be deported after her graduation.
I would hardly demonize legal immigrants. Not only do I like our resident naturalized citizen, my mother was a foreign national.
Pete
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06-20-2012, 01:23 PM
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I have no idea how she made it all the way through high school, you will need to refer that question to the state of Virginia.
In Maryland driver's licenses will be specially marked if you are a non citizen. My comes up for the five year renewal this December, guess I had better take my Naturalization Certificate.
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06-20-2012, 01:23 PM
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Quote:
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I'm sorry John, I was referring to Robs' comment about a girl going to be deported after her graduation.
I would hardly demonize legal immigrants. Not only do I like our resident naturalized citizen, my mother was a foreign national.
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Yes, I remember. England, right?
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