The Foundation of Christianity

[donquixote99]

You are making a very fine point when you say it's not reason, but you invoke logic. Things for which there is no evidence turn up from time to time. But I of course agree it's not reasonable to believe in them before that.

[Chicks]

Why the children of Boomers feel betrayed

https://theweek.com/articles/931976/...-feel-betrayed

... there's something different about having your loved ones' flaws exposed via national politics. There's something different — worse — about learning courtesy of a politician or political crisis that your parents not only don't live up to the principles they taught you, but perhaps they don't really believe in those principles at all. Perhaps the virtues they taught you were always a matter of convenience. Perhaps they were always just ... hypocrites? Perhaps you've been betrayed.

"That line from Michelle Obama — about young people wondering if the adults in their life ever truly believed what they always said they did — is something I hear from young Christians all around the country in a particularly potent and personal way," tweeted Michael Wear, who directed faith outreach for former President Barack Obama's 2012 campaign. Wear received a flood of affirmative responses:

"That is exactly how I feel," said one. "I've come to believe that they were always just telling lies."

...

"Had anyone believed in the virtues they taught me? Or had those virtue claims always been weapons wielded to preserve power for the powerful and keep everyone else in place?" asks Amy Peterson in Where Goodness Still Grows, an exploration of virtue predicated on this very betrayal. "I find myself now wondering if the ground I grew up in was radioactive all along and whether anything good can grow here," she continues. "Does this hypocrisy mean I need to discard everything I learned growing up in the evangelical church?"

...and "Christians" wonder why their kids have abandoned the church. Hypocrites - every damn Trumpkin one of them.

[Pio1980]

Minister: Trump and his supporters don't speak for Jesus

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/opini...ams/index.html

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Why the children of Boomers feel betrayed

https://theweek.com/articles/931976/...-feel-betrayed



...and "Christians" wonder why their kids have abandoned the church. Hypocrites - every damn Trumpkin one of them.

While I don't really have a dog in the fight as I am pretty much a right leaning centrist and not a Christian, you may actually want to research your blanket statements. Your statements lead one to believe that the Democrat party is pretty much atheist and that all Republicans are Christian. While Mormons and evangelical Protestants are heavily skewed toward the republican party, Catholics and orthodox Christians weigh more heavily democrat. Mainline Protestant is about equal between the two parties. While I would concede that the Republican party encompasses more Christians and the Democrat party is more diverse in its makeup including Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim and other world religions, there are millions of Christians in the Democrat party and I would say that as a general rule the overall religious ratio/difference between the two parties probably boils down to less than 20%. I also believe that Christians in both parties are less apathetic and more likely to vote, but that last sentence is my own and not supported by any research.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-l...y-affiliation/

[Chicks]

You'll note the quotes around "Christians". The fake "Christians", Evangelical Trumpkins, is the group being referred to. There are many, many other real Christians, who believe and follow the teachings of Christ, including members of my family. Evangelical Trumpkins are the hypocrites - they live lives filled with hate for "the other".

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by watsup1000

It’s not really about reasoning or proof so much as it is about evidence. Since there is no objective reality-based evidence for a “God”, then the logical conclusion is that no such entity exists. Same as with wood fairies. Bigfoot, and Santa Claus.

There is no such thing as 'objective reality'. Ever study physics ?

I'll have no trouble 'out-sciencing' you.

[donquixote99]

Fine. Objective reality is my religion.

[nailer]

That being a subjective POV.

[donquixote99]

I said religion, so your observation is redundant.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I said religion, so your observation is redundant.

IMHO, the term 'belief system' is more accurate than 'religion'.

People think and act in accordance to their own individual 'belief system'.

We can debate which belief system is most accurate, but we can't actually invalid someone else's POV.

According to the Book of Revelation, two Prophets will emerge and demonstrate to the entire world that the scripture of the Christian Bible is true, but by then it will be too late for anyone to accept Christ as their savior.