Who Killed Sandra Bland?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Still the law, with good reason.

We can have an open NRA approved society where anything goes or we can have law enforcement actually enforcing.

False choice?

Sure.

But those are the goalposts. The only question is which direction we desire to lean.

If Bland follows instructions, she doesn't feel the need to kill herself based upon the outcome she earned.

Sure Zeke, I'm sure a civil of jury will lean in the direction Sandra Bland flicking her cigarette directly into the eyeball of the cop.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Sure Zeke, I'm sure a civil of jury will lean in the direction Sandra Bland flicking her cigarette directly into the eyeball of the cop.

You miss the point: she could have.

I bet a civil jury won't miss the point that she killed HERSELF.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Still the law, with good reason.

We can have an open NRA approved society where anything goes or we can have law enforcement actually enforcing.

False choice?

Sure.

But those are the goalposts. The only question is which direction we desire to lean.

If Bland follows instructions, she doesn't feel the need to kill herself based upon the outcome she earned.

You have murdered Sandra Bland. In your heart.

[Rajoo]

Why isn't this a case of false arrest?
Any escalation was initiated by the cop including asking her to put out the cigarette. He should have asked her to do this first (if it is considered a weapon ) before he approached her and then he may have a case.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

You miss the point: she could have.

I bet a civil jury won't miss the point that she killed HERSELF.

I'm not missing your point Zeke. I don't give a shit about your point.

She's a victim Zeke. Civil juries love poor depressed victims driven to suicide. So we will see.

I suspect there was no way in hell a jury would have acquitted OJ...eh Zeke?

[Zeke]

I do find the overt emotionalism in this thread...odd.

1. Stop was legit.
2. She escalated.
3. Behavior demanded jail.
4. She committed suicide.

I don't see the issue beyond her selfishness.

In theory you can question rationale for police work across the board but this is all within current accepted parameters.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

I do find the overt emotionalism in this thread...odd.

1. Stop was legit.
2. She escalated.
3. Behavior demanded jail.
4. She committed suicide.

I don't see the issue beyond her selfishness.

In theory you can question rationale for police work across the board but this is all within current accepted parameters.

ENFP....that's me.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

ENFP....that's me.

ENTP.

You know what? This should be a new thread!

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

ENTP.

You know what? This should be a new thread!

I administer the MBTI and always tested as ENTP. But as I've gotten older I find I make fewer and fewer decisions based on logical and analytical examination of cause and affect...more and more on what feels right. So I've self identified as ENFP.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I administer the MBTI and always tested as ENTP. But as I've gotten older I find I make fewer and fewer decisions based on logical and analytical examination of cause and affect...more and more on what feels right. So I've self identified as ENFP.

I just started a new thread.

I think we'd all find something illuminating, here?

Not teasing: I'm sure you realize many of our baseline disagreements could be explained by this!