Tea Party After My Groceries Too!

[bobabode]

Is $1 billion divided by 368 million per year the answer you are looking for?

[icenine]

You mean everyone gets about $2.50 if they cut 1 billion from the DOD or commissary budget?
One billion is a thousand million if I am not mistaken, and 368 million is little over a third of that number.

If one does not like Walmart and right to work and under insured and no pensions I get that...but to suggest going after the only part of the economy that still seems to be the opposite of the Walmart system is a bit daft.

[bobabode]

No one is saying that you have a 'screw you Jack, I've got mine' mentality as far as I can see. I'm just pointing up that it's chump change in the scheme of things and that I don't begrudge lifers their pensions and a little extra chit like the commisaries and healthcare.

What chafes is the bloated military budget being sarcosanct by the same cast of characters mentioned in the WaPo article while everybody else sacrifices too much, way too much. Once again your retirement and all associated perks are the deal you signed up for, it's a contract that I for one want to see honored but you should understand that the crazed MIC is bleeding the country dry buying shit that won't fly and big assed floating targets like nuke carriers and M1 Abrams that we don't need. We need to be smarter than that. No offense intended to any Air Force, Navy or Army vets but it's time to move on. For the record the sequester is a stupid as hell way to go about it.

I'll agree with one point, it isn't strictly a zero sum game but it's close to being one. We aren't at war anymore in any traditional sense of the word. It's far past time for a reduction in men/women and material and has been since before the Berlin Wall came down. I'm not buying that the economy will wither and die if we cut the bloated, fat assed MIC back by a hefty margin.

It's been done after every war we've been involved in, it has to. No nation can stay on a war footing forever and survive. The Romans proved that one in a spectacularly bloody fashion and the Visigoths, Franks and Krauts used the rubble for a latrine. I have it on good authority, passed down in old oral histories by my Germanic ancestors, that after we slit their throats and tossed their bodies down the oculus in their favorite temple in Rome we shat down the same hole. Damn near filled it up, too

The 1%ers would do well to study that bit of history and maybe the French Revolution, too but that's for another thread. "Guillotines for the 1%" would be a good title, no?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

Ok so the commissaries go away
how is your life improved?

If you save a billion here and a billion there, pretty soon you're talking about real money.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bobabode

No one is saying that you have a 'screw you Jack, I've got mine' mentality as far as I can see. I'm just pointing up that it's chump change in the scheme of things and that I don't begrudge lifers their pensions and a little extra chit like the commisaries and healthcare.

What chafes is the bloated military budget being sarcosanct by the same cast of characters mentioned in the WaPo article while everybody else sacrifices too much, way too much. Once again your retirement and all associated perks are the deal you signed up for, it's a contract that I for one want to see honored but you should understand that the crazed MIC is bleeding the country dry buying shit that won't fly and big assed floating targets like nuke carriers and M1 Abrams that we don't need. We need to be smarter than that. No offense intended to any Air Force, Navy or Army vets but it's time to move on. For the record the sequester is a stupid as hell way to go about it.

I'll agree with one point, it isn't strictly a zero sum game but it's close to being one. We aren't at war anymore in any traditional sense of the word. It's far past time for a reduction in men/women and material and has been since before the Berlin Wall came down. I'm not buying that the economy will wither and die if we cut the bloated, fat assed MIC back by a hefty margin.

It's been done after every war we've been involved in, it has to. No nation can stay on a war footing forever and survive. The Romans proved that one in a spectacularly bloody fashion and the Visigoths, Franks and Krauts used the rubble for a latrine. I have it on good authority, passed down in old oral histories by my Germanic ancestors, that after we slit their throats and tossed their bodies down the oculus in their favorite temple in Rome we shat down the same hole. Damn near filled it up, too

The 1%ers would do well to study that bit of history and maybe the French Revolution, too but that's for another thread. "Guillotines for the 1%" would be a good title, no?

There it is.

Dave

[icenine]

Yawn.....

will hit the Commissary this Sunday...I forgot most of the customers lean GOP or Tea Party anyway..I am probably the only liberal in the store lol

All I can say is Bob is right....can't help it if I got the big end of the stick.

Oh when they cut the deficit by a trillion everyone gets $2500....

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

If you save a billion here and a billion there, pretty soon you're talking about real money.

True dat and we need to be smart about it. The F35 tri mission boondoggle might be a good place to start? Who needs another ship of the line carrier with it's compliment of five thousand crew and planes? Ferfukssakes, the Chinese have a ski jump carrier that they can't even land on, not really much of a threat there unless we sail dead into range of their Silkworms trying to protect those crazy mofos in Formosa or Korea.

The budget needs to be re-purposed to infrastructure. I've heard that Marine's and Seabee's are pretty good roadbuilders and Army dogface's know how to build bridges. Wages paid will still flow into local economies. Maybe I'm just being simplistic? I dunno but a modern day CCC/WPA scheme might be a start to getting the country back on it's feet. Hell, it worked for our parents and grandparents.

I just hope there isn't some Axis assholes waiting over the horizon this time around but it seems to me that if we keep pushing people around like we have in the middle east and the far east they will join together and push back. A hot war with nukes will only end up with everybody living in a brutish caricature of Medievil Times and the West Coast cities will be glowing holes in the ground, Patriot AM batteries and Aegis cruisers can't get 'em all.

Time to beat swords into plowshares in my opinion before it's too late but what do I know, I'm just nailpounding shithead Democrat with a GED who likes to read history books in my spare time. I do agree with Republicans about one thing, the tax codes need to be rewritten.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by bobabode

True dat and we need to be smart about it. The F35 tri mission boondoggle might be a good place to start? Who needs another ship of the line carrier with it's compliment of five thousand crew and planes? Ferfukssakes, the Chinese have a ski jump carrier that they can't even land on, not really much of a threat there unless we sail dead into range of their Silkworms trying to protect those crazy mofos in Formosa or Korea.

The budget needs to be re-purposed to infrastructure. I've heard that Marine's and Seabee's are pretty good roadbuilders and Army dogface's know how to build bridges. Wages paid will still flow into local economies. Maybe I'm just being simplistic? I dunno but a modern day CCC/WPA scheme might be a start to getting the country back on it's feet. Hell, it worked for our parents and grandparents.

I just hope there isn't some Axis assholes waiting over the horizon this time around but it seems to me that if we keep pushing people around like we have in the middle east and the far east they will join together and push back. A hot war with nukes will only end up with everybody living in a brutish caricature of Medievil Times and the West Coast cities will be glowing holes in the ground, Patriot AM batteries and Aegis cruisers can't get 'em all.

Time to beat swords into plowshares in my opinion before it's too late but what do I know, I'm just nailpounding shithead Democrat with a GED who likes to read history books in my spare time. I do agree with Republicans about one thing, the tax codes need to be rewritten.

That sounds like beating swords into a WPA or NRA or some other New Deal organization to improve our infrastructure

[BlueStreak]

Yea, fancy that. Or, maybe we could pay hundreds of thousands to hang out waiting for the next war? At least with Bobs model, we get something for our money.

Dave

[icenine]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Yea, fancy that. Or, maybe we could pay hundreds of thousands to hang out waiting for the next war? At least with Bobs model, we get something for our money.

Dave

Maybe it is you that has the problem and not that Chief or whatever he was that was in for 24 years.