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Old 04-08-2012, 12:01 PM
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Anyways, it's been fun, but I gotta clean this cluttered up doghouse up before company arrives.
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:18 PM
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Excellent post Chas. And I am in total agreement. All the facts are still not divulged. Have a blessed day everyone!
Fine but if the kid was white and the killer was black we would be waiting for all the facts with the killer behind bars wouldn't we?

This is a simple statement of fact.
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Old 04-08-2012, 02:05 PM
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261 justifiable homicides.......Not the total number of homicides.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

16,799...........5.5 out of 100k......261 were justifiable?

(Germany, for instance had 0.8 per 100k.)

That's pretty bad, IMO.

Dave
Actually, the 261 were just private citizens. The cops kill a lot more.

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Fine but if the kid was white and the killer was black we would be waiting for all the facts with the killer behind bars wouldn't we?

This is a simple statement of fact.

Saying that does not make it so.

If I said cows had wings...then they should fly.
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Old 04-08-2012, 02:23 PM
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If I said cows had wings...then they should fly.
Similarly, if chickens had lips, they wouldn't have to eat with their peckers.
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:15 PM
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Saying that does not make it so.

If I said cows had wings...then they should fly.
Thank God they do not, bird poop is bad enough.
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:58 PM
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Actually, the 261 were just private citizens. The cops kill a lot more.

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Yep.

It's an unfortunate part of their job......

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Old 04-08-2012, 05:03 PM
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Fine but if the kid was white and the killer was black we would be waiting for all the facts with the killer behind bars wouldn't we?

This is a simple statement of fact.
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Saying that does not make it so.

If I said cows had wings...then they should fly.
Knowing how certain things go in this world and refusing to face it, doesn't make it untrue either.

Like when a busines owner fails and blames it on everyone but himself........

But, that's a separate issue.

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Old 04-09-2012, 11:29 AM
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The homicide by gun rate is meaningless to gun control debate unless it bereaks out how many were legally owned.

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I just saw an astounding statistic. 66% of white folks believe that race had nothing to do with this?

I had no clue there were so many rocks in the country for all these people to live under.

That's true. Most don't know how much animosity exists between many Hispanics and black folks, particularly in the hood.

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I am in the habit of telling trespassers that they have 30 seconds to leave (which I did not mention) but is this not what the "castle laws" are all about?
For sure!

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Dave, you have hit on something here and I would like to elaborate.

A lot of people, including myself, see this as no more than playing the "race"card.

For political purposes.

If George Zimmerman is a "Dirty Harry wannabe", why is Trayvon, "the No Limit Nigga" not a "gangster wannabee"?

As far as I'm concerned, this is about the most despicable demonstration of dirty politics I've ever witnessed.

That's my honest opinion, and it is also my opinion to cool the rhetoric before the cities go up in flames.

The courts will decide this, no sense if making things worse.

Chas
Excellent Chas.

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Old 04-09-2012, 12:23 PM
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Nearly every gun was "legally owned" at some point, I'm sure. Unless the criminals are manufacturing their own. So, "total deaths by firearm" statistics are not irrelevant.

"Justifiable deaths" by private citizen or police is a relevant statistic to match against "unjustifiable homicide"....and the numbers aren't all that great.

Our total matched against other "developed" nations is less than mediocre. Apparently, WE are doing something wrong.

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