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Old 11-04-2014, 10:53 AM
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Does anybody really know that Zeke's a cop?
I figure either he's a cop, or a self appointed Neighborhood Watch Captain.

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Old 11-04-2014, 11:00 AM
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Zeke, you may want to review post #323, or any of the videos I posted, which provide evidence that Brown was nowhere near the police vehicle, and indeed fell dead over 100 feet from wilsons vehicle.

Being consistent in your claim brown was in close proximity to Wilson and represented a clear danger is good for the police narrative, but is an epic fail for the truth. If you would, please post a video showing the two in the same frame.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:07 AM
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IMHO everything is not settled.
Truth be known Ike, I never could gin up much sympathy for OJ's victims.

I mean on the one hand we got a gold digging bimbo who never worked a day in her life living large off of some rich dude's money and on the other hand we have the $5 an hour Pizza Delivery boy that was banging her.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:31 AM
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Aw shucks TJ.

Zeke's a cop. (If he actually is a cop. Does anybody really know that Zeke's a cop?) He's not interested in justice, he's interested in being an apologist for bad cops.
Based on what he's said, I gather Zeke has some sort of law enforcement and/or security background. Maybe street cop, maybe corrections or probation, maybe private security. He indicated at one point he was off 'active duty' because he didn't want more 'interfere with sleep' stuff. That implies some things, the truth may be interesting, or it may not. No real point in speculating.
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Old 11-04-2014, 12:01 PM
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Bullshit Zeke. Utter fucking flatulent bullshit. OJ got away with murder. He should be in prison for committing murder. What you're suggesting is that one way or another OJ ended up in prison and it doesn't matter for what reason or on what charge...justice is served. Royal goddamn bullshit, Zeke.
This is probably why. OJ case was a long time ago and I have forgotten the details and the courtroom drama. But one thing did stick out though in my memory and that OJ was acquitted mostly due to police bungling. So I Googled and came upon this.

"At the trial two decades ago, Simpson's defense attorneys poked gaping holes in the prosecution's case by exposing problems the Los Angeles Police Department had in handling evidence. Among the lessons: follow procedure, make sure evidence is always accounted for and properly logged and be brutally honest to a jury even if it hurts."

Be honest to a jury even if it hurts. Is this ever followed? Think this is going on with the Grand Jury in Ferguson? Probably not.

Here is the rest of the article on OJ & LAPD.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/oj-si...ce-what-not-do
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Old 11-04-2014, 12:20 PM
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Zeke, you may want to review post #323, or any of the videos I posted, which provide evidence that Brown was nowhere near the police vehicle, and indeed fell dead over 100 feet from wilsons vehicle.

Being consistent in your claim brown was in close proximity to Wilson and represented a clear danger is good for the police narrative, but is an epic fail for the truth. If you would, please post a video showing the two in the same frame.
Wasting keystrokes. Here is Zeke's logic (and Ferguson PD, DA, etc) the way I see it.

Wilson was or felt threatened by Brown except Wilson had a gun and Brown did not (or I am assuming Wilson knew that). Browns physical size was perceived to be the threat. Brown allegedly attacked Wilson, he felt his life was threatened, so Brown had to be neutralized (shot) till he was no longer a threat (killed). Good Shoot and end of story.

Grand Jury is about to buy this story, you can bet on it.
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Old 11-04-2014, 12:21 PM
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Zeke, you may want to review post #323, or any of the videos I posted, which provide evidence that Brown was nowhere near the police vehicle, and indeed fell dead over 100 feet from wilsons vehicle.
Which shows just how important it is to fully neutralize an assailant. All that movement POST engagement...

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Being consistent in your claim brown was in close proximity to Wilson and represented a clear danger is good for the police narrative, but is an epic fail for the truth. If you would, please post a video showing the two in the same frame.
The danger doesn't negate until it is neutralized. That said, while very artsy, the videos prove/disprove nothing other than where Brown was in relation to a cruiser when he -- eventually -- fell. They say nothing of his potential danger to Wilson at the time.

Only Wilson's professional, trained and first-hand thoughts at the time matter at all...

Sum? Grand Jury exoneration will likely be the mantra of the day.

Sadly, that's going to annoy the entitlement types...
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Old 11-04-2014, 12:22 PM
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Grand Jury is about to buy this story, you can bet on it.
By this you mean, "uphold the law," right?
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I realize it is a waste of keystrokes, Beam, but it must be put in play. Brown was far enough away from the sub that Wilson had to chase after him to kill him, which kinda sorta actually really precludes using the angry, irrational charging young black stud nxxxer defense that is so popular.

Gotta watch out for all these entitled f'ing bustards. Soot em before they become problems.

I am amused with the entitlement theory, though. Never heard the word in micro, macro, or labor Econ, nor operations management, accounting I, II, managerial, or advanced accounting, or abnormal psych or criminal psych. Just went thru college at the wrong time.
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Old 11-04-2014, 12:57 PM
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I realize it is a waste of keystrokes, Beam, but it must be put in play. Brown was far enough away from the sub that Wilson had to chase after him to kill him...
Where has that been proven?

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...which kinda sorta actually really precludes using the angry, irrational charging young black stud nxxxer defense that is so popular.

Gotta watch out for all these entitled f'ing bustards. Soot em before they become problems.
Straw Man.

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I am amused with the entitlement theory, though. Never heard the word in micro, macro, or labor Econ, nor operations management, accounting I, II, managerial, or advanced accounting, or abnormal psych or criminal psych. Just went thru college at the wrong time.
Early-to-mid nineties (undergrad)?

Perhaps graduate school (finished in 2003)?

I do note a lack of Sociology, Criminal Justice or Public Affairs. I'm guessing different perspectives on similar issues...
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