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06-24-2016, 08:54 PM
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A Secretary of State has plenty of business to discuss with American business leaders in terms of trade policy, etc. As a GS-15 manager at three Federal agency headquarters, I met with industry and labor leaders all the time and served on a number of national consensus standards committees with industry and labor counterparts. I also spoke at any number of national conventions and conferences sponsored by industry and labor. I couldn't have done my job otherwise. I don't see what the big deal is.
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06-24-2016, 09:01 PM
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That's really reaching, John. Good luck with that Whellian bit of tortured logic.
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It's perfectly straightforward. I'm amazed that you don't get it.
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06-24-2016, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
A Secretary of State has plenty of business to discuss with American business leaders in terms of trade policy, etc. As a GS-15 manager at three Federal agency headquarters, I met with industry and labor leaders all the time and served on a number of national consensus standards committees with industry and labor counterparts. I also spoke at any number of national conventions and conferences sponsored by industry and labor. I couldn't have done my job otherwise. I don't see what the big deal is.
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None beyond the troublesome fact that it's quite possibly a violation of the aforementioned section of the US Code and possibly the Hatch Act as well. It's different for civil servants such as you were.
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06-24-2016, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Read Robbin's response, ie: "Congress people do it every day." Any Congressperson who "does it every day" is breaking the law.
Whell brought it into the conversation by saying that it might be a problem if Congresspeople "conducted business" from their offices. Robbin disagreed. That makes him wrong.
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I am not making this stuff up. It does not matter where they call from does it?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minut...telemarketers/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2427291.html
My point is Whell is holding Hillary to a double standard.
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06-24-2016, 09:12 PM
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Really? Congress folks are on the phone asking for contributions in return for political donations to their privately run "charitable" organizations? A charitable organization that appears to operate as a private slush fund? Hmm...do tell. Who are the congress people that are doing this every day? Who are the congress people that falsify their public records to hide participants at these meetings?
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Boy talk about innuendo. You would have made a great Dick Nixon speech writer/campaign dirty tricks impresario...
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06-24-2016, 09:13 PM
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Yes, it does. And whell was merely holding Hillary to the same standard as other government officials, Something Hillary has a hard time doing, as in the case of her use of a private server for her email in violation of State Dept. rules.
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06-24-2016, 09:16 PM
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Here is a quote from one of Whell's GOP buddies in the House:
From the 60 Minutes segment:
Rep. David Jolly: The House schedule is actually arranged, in some ways, around fundraising.
Norah O'Donnell: You're telling me the whole schedule of how work gets done is scheduled around fundraising?
Rep. David Jolly: That's right. You never see a committee working through lunch because those are your fundraising times. And then in between afternoon votes and evening votes, that's when you can see Democrats walking down this street, Republicans walking down that street to spend time on the phone making phone calls.
And your giving Hillary crap about meeting some people on Wall Street.
Apologize to Hillary Whell.....
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06-24-2016, 09:19 PM
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Yes, it does. And whell was merely holding Hillary to the same standard as other government officials, Something Hillary has a hard time doing, as in the case of her use of a private server for her email in violation of State Dept. rules.
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Do you realize John that you and Whell are actually in agreement on an issue?
That is bigger than the Brexit.....
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06-24-2016, 09:26 PM
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Do you realize John that you and Whell are actually in agreement on an issue?
That is bigger than the Brexit..... 
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About an isolated fact. Nothing more.
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06-25-2016, 06:58 AM
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There seems to be an awful lot of "But Mom, everybody is doing it" around here.
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