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07-16-2023, 08:01 AM
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Kelly Ann Conway explained it all years ago. We may have facts, but Whell has alternative facts. He feels entitled to keep them as long as he wants, Moynihan be damned.
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He certainly entitled to keep them as long as he wants just as we are entitled to be amused by his feeble attempts at convincing us it's more than just malarkey.
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07-16-2023, 12:59 PM
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He certainly entitled to keep them as long as he wants just as we are entitled to be amused by his feeble attempts at convincing us it's more than just malarkey.
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He can't have any realistic expectation to convince us of anything whatsoever at this point. It's mainly just to enjoy waving his flag and bugging us.
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07-17-2023, 07:00 PM
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Blame it on the “MAGA persecution complex” — the vast array of outlets in the right-wing media ecosystem that incentivizes GOP lawmakers to pander to conservative victimization and grievance. It’s feasting on so many claims of persecution that it’s essentially eating itself to death.
At last week’s hearing, Republicans alleged that the FBI investigated conservative parents at school board meetings. (That’s entirely baseless.) They insisted FBI Director Christopher A. Wray, a registered Republican, personally sicced the FBI on conservatives. (Wray called this “insane.”) They claimed the FBI has eagerly persecuted Trump. (The FBI has actually been rule-bound and cautious.) They railed that FBI plants incited the Jan. 6, 2021, attack. (The central evidence of this has collapsed.)
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Here is a good summation.
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“Good oversight may start with a theory, but it gathers facts before reaching conclusions,” Brendan Buck, a former senior House GOP leadership aide, told me. “These committees are starting with conclusions and then trying — and mostly failing — to find facts to support them.”
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That is where Kellyanne's alternative facts come in, to us those are pure unadulterated BS. In logic there is a concept that if your primary premise is based on unfounded facts (aka alternate facts), argument is no longer valid.
The MAGA persecution complex is eating itself to death
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...bi-trump-maga/
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07-18-2023, 07:43 PM
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This is from last week.
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“I think saying that there were problems with 2020 is very real. I don’t think that’s election denying,” McDaniel told Wallace. “I’m from Wayne County [Michigan]. We had a woman send a note saying I’m being told to backdate ballots. We had to look into that. That’s deeply concerning. When you have friends who are poll-watching and being kicked out, that’s deeply concerning. We have every right to look at that.”
McDaniel, when pressed, conceded that Biden is the president, but she insisted there had been "lots of problems" with that election and so she didn't think "he won it fair."
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Two and a half years, head of the RNC and she is still an election denier.
https://www.rawstory.com/ronna-mcdaniel-2662274703/
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07-19-2023, 08:41 AM
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HORSE HOCKEY! Did they look into those alleged issues? Of course they did. Did they find any wrongdoing? Of course they didn't. The only "problems" (for them) were the majority of the votes were for Biden.
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she didn't think "he won it fair"
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The head of the Republican National Command would say nothing less.
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07-19-2023, 09:31 AM
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HORSE HOCKEY! Did they look into those alleged issues? Of course they did. Did they find any wrongdoing? Of course they didn't. The only "problems" (for them) were the majority of the votes were for Biden.
The head of the Republican National Command would say nothing less.
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Typical of fascism, the Central Command needs to make up truths to support their lies. All elections are closely monitored by both parties and very little fraud ever takes place un-noticed and they are always investigated.
Edit: Now that $45 is the front runner and presumptive nominee for 2024, the RNC is tacitly supporting his election fraud crap. Expect other Repubs to fall in line. Amazing that the Fox-Dominion settlement is not dissuading them propagating the BIG LIE.
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07-19-2023, 09:57 AM
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HORSE HOCKEY! Did they look into those alleged issues? Of course they did. Did they find any wrongdoing? Of course they didn't. The only "problems" (for them) were the majority of the votes were for Biden.
The head of the Republican National Command would say nothing less.
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One of her best friends was indicted yesterday for attempting to steal the election for Trump. LOL.
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07-19-2023, 11:53 AM
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One of her best friends was indicted yesterday for attempting to steal the election for Trump. LOL.
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A Ronna McD's friend? Who?
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07-19-2023, 12:18 PM
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FAKE NEWS EXPOSED: A Service of PoliticalChat.com
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A Ronna McD's friend? Who?
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Kathy Berden, close friend of Ronna and RNC committeewoman. Her subpoena by the J6 Committee helped get Liz Cheney censured (a move by the RNC that even McConnell objected to).
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/us/politics/republicans-censure-mcconnell.html
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07-19-2023, 01:29 PM
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Thanks finn, after reading the article putting the January 6th insurrection and especially Trump's part in it is exactly what they did not want, "On Capitol Hill, there is little appetite among Republicans for talking about the riot."
And this is exactly what they are going to get now.
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