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07-09-2023, 10:59 AM
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You did no such thing. You made a lame attempt at "whataboutism" that fell flat on its ass as it had absolutely no merit.
Indeed, I challenge you to find a single instance where Biden has promoted, encouraged or threatened political violence, something Trump and the GOP do routinely.
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Biden, Philadelphia, Sept 2022: "Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic." In the weeks leading up to the Philly speech, Biden stated that MAGA Republicans "embrace political violence" and their "entire philosophy" is "almost like semi-fascism."
In the weeks after that speech, Richard Harvey shot 80+ year old Joan Jacobson while she was going door to door passing out pro-life materials.
Shannon Brandt, 41, allegedly ran over pedestrian Cayler Ellingson, 18, with his car because he thought the teen was "a Republican extremist."
Meanwhile, the left breaks the law by protesting outside SCOTUS justices' homes, and the Biden/Garland administration does nothing.
Biden's VP then-candidate Kamala Harris asked folks to donate to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, as that organization was using its funds to bail out protestors looting and rioting in Minneapolis.
You asked for a "single instance". I gave you three because I was feeling generous today.
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07-09-2023, 11:03 AM
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Matthew Gertz @MattGertz
Views for "Tucker Carlson on Twitter" posts (assume the number of people who actually viewed the videos is much much lower).
Announcement: 137.1M
Ep. 1: 120M
Ep. 2: 60.6M
Ep. 3 (Trump indicted): 104.1M
Ep. 4: 32.4M
Ep. 5: 17.3M
Ep. 6: 32M
Ep. 7: 15.4M
Ep. 8: 8.6M
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Downward spiral to irrelevance. Buh-bye, Fucker!
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The same can be said for the left's favorite media outlets. which have prime-time audiences FAR below 8.6M:
MSNBC was third overall with an average total audience of 1.088 million viewers, and CNN landed in 17th place with 442,000 viewers
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07-09-2023, 11:19 AM
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The same can be said for the left's favorite media outlets. which have prime-time audiences FAR below 8.6M:
MSNBC was third overall with an average total audience of 1.088 million viewers, and CNN landed in 17th place with 442,000 viewers |
Who cares? The fewer people who watch cable news the better. Fox News is proof positive that the level of viewership has nothing to do with the quality/veracity of programming. It seems to indicate that, among Republicans at least, people like being lied to if it confirms their priors (something the Dominion case made crystal clear).
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07-09-2023, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
The same can be said for the left's favorite media outlets. which have prime-time audiences FAR below 8.6M:
MSNBC was third overall with an average total audience of 1.088 million viewers, and CNN landed in 17th place with 442,000 viewers |
RTFM:
* the number of people who actually viewed the videos is much much lower.
IOW, these numbers are for those who've viewed the tweet in their feeds, but not the videos, which is likely thousands of times lower.
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07-09-2023, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
Biden, Philadelphia, Sept 2022: "Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic." In the weeks leading up to the Philly speech, Biden stated that MAGA Republicans "embrace political violence" and their "entire philosophy" is "almost like semi-fascism."
In the weeks after that speech, Richard Harvey shot 80+ year old Joan Jacobson while she was going door to door passing out pro-life materials.
Shannon Brandt, 41, allegedly ran over pedestrian Cayler Ellingson, 18, with his car because he thought the teen was "a Republican extremist."
Meanwhile, the left breaks the law by protesting outside SCOTUS justices' homes, and the Biden/Garland administration does nothing.
Biden's VP then-candidate Kamala Harris asked folks to donate to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, as that organization was using its funds to bail out protestors looting and rioting in Minneapolis.
You asked for a "single instance". I gave you three because I was feeling generous today.
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After years of excusing violence against abortion providers, right-wing media fearmonger about post-Roe left-wing violence
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Apparently, the right needs a reminder of its connection to decades of murders and attacks on abortion providers, patients, and clinics
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Jill Filipovic
@JillFilipovic
Since Roe was handed down 49 years ago, "pro-lifers" in the US have committed:
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-26 attempted murders
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-42 bombings
-667 bomb threats
-100 butyric acid attacks
-189 arsons
-663 Anthrax /bioterrorism threats
-25,000+ acts of phone harassment or hate mail
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No one should condone violence to settle disputes, but it is also true that violence leads to more violence especially with easy access to guns. As to the Richard hervey case, the woman should have left once told they are not interested in her speal and a $10K bail is indicative of that imo.
https://www.mediamatters.org/supreme...dia-fearmonger
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Last edited by Rajoo; 07-09-2023 at 11:32 AM.
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07-09-2023, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Biden, Philadelphia, Sept 2022: "Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic." In the weeks leading up to the Philly speech, Biden stated that MAGA Republicans "embrace political violence" and their "entire philosophy" is "almost like semi-fascism."...
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This is undeniably true, though he was treading lightly in the last sentence with the words "almost" and "semi." None of what he said can reasonably be construed as promoting, encouraging or threatening political violence or inciting the incidents you cited. Correctly asserting the obvious and indisputable fact that Trump and the MAGA movement embrace political violence is itself not inciting/promoting political violence, no matter desperate you are for some sort of (false) equivalency.
If you need some examples of what promoting political violence actually looks like, here are 10 examples of Trump actually doing so (and it doesn't even include that he asked Defense Secretary Mark Esper the following regarding Lafayette Square protesters: "Can't you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?").
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/02/tru...nce-presidency
DHS, DOJ and the FBI all agree that “racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists” are the nation's greatest domestic threat. In fact, Trump persistent lies and violent rhetoric helped to instigate the single biggest act of domestic political violence in the nation's history by a violent MAGA horde (with over 1,000 indictments so far (and counting)). How quickly you (and your party) have memory-holed that shameful day.
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07-09-2023, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Biden, Philadelphia, Sept 2022: "Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic." In the weeks leading up to the Philly speech, Biden stated that MAGA Republicans "embrace political violence" and their "entire philosophy" is "almost like semi-fascism."
In the weeks after that speech, Richard Harvey shot 80+ year old Joan Jacobson while she was going door to door passing out pro-life materials.
Shannon Brandt, 41, allegedly ran over pedestrian Cayler Ellingson, 18, with his car because he thought the teen was "a Republican extremist."
Meanwhile, the left breaks the law by protesting outside SCOTUS justices' homes, and the Biden/Garland administration does nothing.
Biden's VP then-candidate Kamala Harris asked folks to donate to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, as that organization was using its funds to bail out protestors looting and rioting in Minneapolis.
You asked for a "single instance". I gave you three because I was feeling generous today.
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Nowhere in your examples does President Biden condone or call for violence. You are so full of crap, Mike Whell. smh
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07-09-2023, 01:06 PM
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Nowhere in your examples does President Biden condone or call for violence. You are so full of crap, Mike Whell. smh
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This before last year's midterms.
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“We’re facing a defining moment. We must with one overwhelming, unified voice speak, as a country, and say there’s no place for voter intimidation or political violence in America.”
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While the Moron,
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Donald Trump is the accelerant
A comprehensive timeline of Trump encouraging hate groups and political violence.
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https://www.vox.com/21506029/trump-v...st-hate-speech
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...dterm-election
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07-09-2023, 02:26 PM
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Nowhere in your examples does President Biden condone or call for violence. You are so full of crap, Mike Whell. smh
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As I said previously...
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Originally Posted by RickeyM
Allegations equal facts, that's how he/they roll.
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When ya' ain't got facts, you go with what ya' gots. The MAGAt's can't tell the difference anyway. What's amusing is how whell brings that nonsense here as if this is some pro-MAGA page where they just eat that stuff up, SMH.
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07-09-2023, 02:43 PM
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This skit reminded me of our resident MAGAMoron. Just sub HR guy for accountant, it’s a perfect match.
https://youtu.be/LqQlCOmXuHM
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