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03-20-2014, 09:14 AM
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You know Pete it's the law to carry an ID in the state of California. Police can ask to see it at any time they like if you do not provide it they can bring you in to finger print you. To try to determine who you are, and able to hold you without charge for 48 hours.
So we know these people that want to try to equate this ID to vote as Nazi state is an ignorant attempt.
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But, since you don't have to show a DL or the state-issued photo ID, at the polling place, I don't see what this has to do with the thread.
Also, it's not against the law to be without ID here. It's just that the police are authorized to determine who you are and, if you can't establish your ID, they have the option of detaining you for that purpose.
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03-20-2014, 09:17 AM
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We even came through the border with our voter registration cards as identity some years back. Passports have expirred and I see no need to renew. Since a passport costs money needing one to vote is a poll tax, and that is against the law.
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03-20-2014, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
The discriminator of what is permissible under civil rights laws isn't just overt acts of racism. It also includes actions that disproportionately impact a certain class of people, whether they intended to do so or not.
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That's ludicrous, what class?
I don't know were the left live in their minds but as a US citizen we are all required to have ID. Without it we can get locked up or can't function day to day in society. The need for ID generally start in schools to driving to finances on and on.
If anyone is that far removed from US society not to have an ID. Then fuck em they don't need to vote on laws for the US.
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03-20-2014, 09:20 AM
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It's a divisive issue.
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03-20-2014, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
It's racist to ask for ID?
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Do you have a passport?
Making it expensive and difficult to get an id is just another poll tax Pete and you know it.
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03-20-2014, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
It's racist to ask for ID?
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03-20-2014, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Those already exist. They're called voter registration cards. You get one when you register. When you register, you need to show proof of age and citizenship. After you're registered, your name is on the voter rolls, available to poll workers at your polling station. When you show up to vote, you're checked against the rolls.
What the Republicans want is to add an additional level of complexity, redundancy and cost to a process that's already working. The problem they claim to be addressing doesn't exist and they know it. They just want to make it harder for identifiable Democratic voters to vote.
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poll tax
if they figure out that most people of color have legit ids they will then want to make everyone have a passport...
I thought the Baggers were against big gov't but they sure want to drug test and poll tax everyone....
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03-20-2014, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 4-2-7
That's ludicrous, what class?
I don't know were the left live in their minds but as a US citizen we are all required to have ID. Without it we can get locked up or can't function day to day in society. The need for ID generally start in schools to driving to finances on and on.
If anyone is that far removed from US society not to have an ID. Then fuck em they don't need to vote on laws for the US.
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03-20-2014, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4-2-7
That's ludicrous, what class?
I don't know were the left live in their minds but as a US citizen we are all required to have ID. Without it we can get locked up or can't function day to day in society. The need for ID generally start in schools to driving to finances on and on.
If anyone is that far removed from US society not to have an ID. Then fuck em they don't need to vote on laws for the US.
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Some older people do not have their birth certificates so this impacts their ability to get the "correct ID"... when going to polls
plus Scott Walker in Wisconsin began reducing the places to get an id....in Democratic districts
pull your head out of your....
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03-20-2014, 09:29 AM
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Can anyone post a link that shows anyone convicted of voter fraud in the last 5 years?
that is any non-Republican guilty of voter fraud.....a legit case?
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