Trumps is in!

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by barbara

There shouldn't be riots because we are supposed to be civilized .

But don't get me wrong...there are civilized people in this country, they are just such a small segment that they no longer define the country.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Thank you for a great reality check. How about stand your ground laws? And let's not forget the only country to have used the dreaded A-bomb twice.

Guilt tripper.

[Pio1980]

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[noonereal]

Originally Posted by barbara

Your idea of weaning them off alcohol by letting them drink less

Barbara
It both makes sense and is FAR superior a way to withdrawal. Period.

I get that you have always been taught that alcoholics are helpless pups blah blah blah... Do YOu think I was raised under a rock?

It is, in fact seldom the case that genetics make one unable to not stop after a drink or two. It is the rare exception. The AA model is widely adapted here but not elsewhere where it is seen for what it is. Extreme and unhelpful to many.

BTW, this is all an offshoot to my point, my point being that the healthy thing to do with one remaining bottle of liquor, if someone has become physically dependent is to use it to ween them.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Then I can offer you no guidance.

Everyone can learn from another.

Much of how and why people think and do what they do I may be able to tutor you on. Other avenues I am a dumb dolt who seeks counsel. (why I like the folks here)

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Boreas

That's pretty much the takeaway in this instance.

for one to offer another counsel they must know more and be accepted as such

neither applies here

I am not shy, as you know, to seek guidance when I need it.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

So?

Why shouldn't there be riots when the elites circumvent the will of the people?

This country is long overdue for riots especially over our rigged election system.

There should have been huge riots, bloody ones, when George W. Bush was installed as President in spite of losing the popular vote to Al Gore.

that there wasn't was remiss, I agree.

again, I would not leave my living room but in principle I agree

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Boreas

So,Ed, what personal experience or professional expertise leads you to these conclusions?

logic, common sense (experience) and informal education (I really am a boring dolt in real life who prefers not to leave the house and reads some of the driest most boring books ever written... slowly so I can absorb them... very slowly (lol))

This is not a revolutionary concept it's just that AA became mainstream.

The first article I googled, https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...he-only-option

and I'll tell you something else... the idea that heroin is so hard to get off of is bullshit... what makes it so difficult is how we go about it. Methadone on the other hand is a bear to get off. Yet we take heroin addicts and turns them into methadone dependents. Brilliant, freakin' brilliant.


This conversation reminds me of all the year I railed against ADD drugs. I got the same shit. Everyone knew better because they were TAUGHT this or that. The doctor said... the school said... Well, people are now catching on that it's insane... decades later...

Sorry John, I am over explaining why I know what I know. This is on me. my bad, I own it. I take responsibility. Tons I don't know. Tons. That should make barb and don happy to hear. But this is not that subject.

I have a useless degree in Economics yet I would not run to myself for financial advise.

I can tell you about doctors too if you like?

[noonereal]

[icenine]

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