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03-17-2016, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Trump isn't running.
The last Fox debate, or was it one before, I forget, was nothing more than an assassination attempt. They had it all set up and the moderators were obviously in cahoots with Rubio and Cruz.
Trump is refusing to walk into another ambush.
And he can do that.
Trump is the front runner by a country mile.
He is the Big Kahuna.
He's in the Driver's seat and he can call the shots and there ain't a damned thing Fox can do about it.
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oh yeah.... I remember reading the next day that it was Trump against all other candidates. Truth was it was all the other candidates and the moderators.
What happened? He knocked little marco out f the race that night and won the debate.
Yet still, here and on my TV all I hear is that he can't be elected.
People just default to pathways of though and seldom OBJECTIVELY reexamine situations when new criteria is present preferring to ignore it or "make it fit" what they had previously learned.
This default method of processing situations serves man/served man well during evolution but it does handicap him in adapting to change.
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03-17-2016, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by noonereal
oh yeah.... I remember reading the next day that it was Trump against all other candidates. Truth was it was all the other candidates and the moderators.
What happened? He knocked little marco out f the race that night and won the debate.
Yet still, here and on my TV all I hear is that he can't be elected.
People just default to pathways of though and seldom OBJECTIVELY reexamine situations when new criteria is present preferring to ignore it or "make it fit" what they had previously learned.
This default method of processing situations serves man/served man well during evolution but it does handicap him in adapting to change.
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Just because he is winning the primaries does not mean he can or will win the general election. I do not believe that Trump is qualified to be President and do not like him or his methods. But I am very happy that he has succeeded if destroying the GOP from within, Bush3 never got out of the starting gate and the pols like Walker, Perry, Rand Paul, Christie among others got left by the wayside leaving the GOP with Trump, Cruz and Kasich. Hillary needs all the help she can get since I don't think she is qualified either, but better Hillary than the three left standing.
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03-17-2016, 05:15 PM
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sorry Barbra, it;s VERY sound. The way the medical community "detoxes" people weather it be heroin or Xanax or alcohol is insane.
and don't even start me on the evils of the Methadone programs. It exists for one reason, to make money for all involved. One of the most failed programs of all time yet no one will cut it.
and another thing AA's approach is fucked up. I know this won't go down well with you but this too is truth.
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The problem with your theory is that alcoholics do not drink responsibly and cannot stop at a reasonable amount. If they could.... They wouldn't be an alcoholic. They might have good Intentions, but once they start drinking those good intentions get lost.
I don't condone the use of methadone programs either. I also don't support AAA due to the religious component. But, many people do benefit from their methods.
Your idea of weaning them off alcohol by letting them drink less is like telling a serial killer he will be able to stop killing people if he cuts back to two kills a month instead of five. It just won't work and it doesn't make sense.
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03-17-2016, 05:28 PM
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you'd be surprised how far ahead of you I am
I say this sincerely and without malice.
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Then I can offer you no guidance.
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03-17-2016, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by noonereal
sorry Barbra, it;s VERY sound. The way the medical community "detoxes" people weather it be heroin or Xanax or alcohol is insane.
and don't even start me on the evils of the Methadone programs. It exists for one reason, to make money for all involved. One of the most failed programs of all time yet no one will cut it.
and another thing AA's approach is fucked up. I know this won't go down well with you but this too is truth.
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So,Ed, what personal experience or professional expertise leads you to these conclusions?
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03-17-2016, 06:01 PM
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Then I can offer you no guidance.
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That's pretty much the takeaway in this instance.
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03-17-2016, 06:30 PM
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03-17-2016, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
So, do you think that Trump's supporters would simply roll over if Romney or Ryan were plugged in as nominee? Trump has pretty much threatened a riot if he doesn't get the nomination. There are a lot of armed rubes willing to follow Hauptsturmführer Drumpf's lead.
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So?
Why shouldn't there be riots when the elites circumvent the will of the people?
This country is long overdue for riots especially over our rigged election system.
There should have been huge riots, bloody ones, when George W. Bush was installed as President in spite of losing the popular vote to Al Gore.
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03-17-2016, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
So?
Why shouldn't there be riots when the elites circumvent the will of the people?
This country is long overdue for riots especially over our rigged election system.
There should have been huge riots, bloody ones, when George W. Bush was installed as President in spite of losing the popular vote to Al Gore.
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There shouldn't be riots because we are supposed to be civilized and it's just the wrong thing to do. Promoting violence is never the right thing to do. We don't like it when Terrorists promote violence and we should know better than to stoop that low.
We have other ways to have our voice heard that causes no damage or death.
Protest all you want, write letters to your elected officials, campaign for the politician of your choice, participate in public hearings, etc.
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03-17-2016, 07:08 PM
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