Who Killed Sandra Bland? - Page 14

Tom Joad · #**131** 08-03-2015, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana

As far as rifle qualifying goes...the M-14 is actually the much more accurate weapon, particularly from anywhere beyond 100 yards. The much more deadly weapon as well with the 7.62mm NATO round. The guys who actually had the opportunity to use both weapons in combat reported that the M-14 had real stopping power compared with the little Matty Mattel gun with the 5.56 round. You could carry a lot more 5.56 ammunition but you had to hit the guy so many times to stop him...what difference does it make? But with the 7.62 on any weapon, even the M4 Carbine, the recoil was just impossible...you really couldn't fire any 7.62 weapon accurately on automatic at all, not even the Kalashnikov. I liked the M-14...of course it was the only actual rifle I ever fired in my life (except for 5 rounds from an M-16 one day at the range at the RTC at Great Lakes), and the only time I fired it was on the rifle range at Pendleton.

I never shot an M-14. I just figured it would be harder to shoot due to the recoil. The M-16 was nothing. It was like shooting my .22, which was the only gun I had ever fired before basic. Of course they didn't let us Air Farce guys fire on full auto.

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana

But what strategy did they use in their sales pitch? That you're proud, patriotic Americans who want to do your duty for your god and your country? Fuck no. They showed us grisly photos of VC and NVA sniper casulaties...mostly long-range casualties where the tumbling round did the most damage. Entry wound below the left shoulder blade...exit wound...the entire right front side of the abdomen blown out. Really terrible stuff. Because they didn't want motivated patriots, they wanted sick sociopaths who would enjoy this sort of shit. I will never go see the glorification of sickness in "American Sniper". It's bullshit. Anybody who wanted that job was a sick motherfucker right outta the gate. And the people who were the best at it were the most disturbed.

So this part of FMJ was probably realistic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5IWK9sRYTs

Zeke · #**132** 08-03-2015, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I actually was not a Marksman, Zeke. Marksman barely qualifies in the Corps. I was an M-14 Rifle Expert, with 100% 10 for 10, in the silhouette from 500 yards. What were you?

Before or after I trained with Olympic marksmen (and women who were actually better) in Colorado Springs using rifles that looked like Gothic sculptures? Perks of coaching a collegiate club rifle team...

And before you think I believe that means anything, target shooting don't mean dick in the Real World.

Sum? Who cares?

Oh wait. You do because you called me out.

Lame.

Still, as acknowledgement, you apparently once shot well. In CO? Those cats weren't just discussing bulls eyes, there were degrees of bulls eyes...

Rex E. · #**133** 08-03-2015, 07:35 PM

Just fer fun..if you use the intended ball ammo for the 5.56 it's a very nasty weapon. Of course jacketed NATO rounds are meant to NOT kill the enemy......

djv8ga · #**134** 08-03-2015, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I actually was not a Marksman, Zeke. Marksman barely qualifies in the Corps. I was an M-14 Rifle Expert, with 100% 10 for 10, in the silhouette from 500 yards. What were you?

Very cool.
.308 is my favorite round to target shoot.