Barack H. Obama and your Second Amendment Rights !

[bobabode]

You're in danger of becoming a huggable fuzzy wuzzy Zeke. I was entertained more than I care to admit.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

Well Chas,

The theater was closed not abandoned.

And do you know all the trouble that you go through when you kill someone !

I always do what is necessary, not what I might like to do in a situation like this.

And if I wished to lie here, I would have killed all of these fockers, just to teach them a lesson. Who do they think their fockin with.
But I'll leave the Bull Shit to Zeke, he's an expert !

Bill

I've got a pretty good idea of what happens if you kill someone, whether justified or not.

In Missouri we have the Castle Doctrine Law, which only gives you a defense for the use of lethal force, not a right. And by the same token, if you produce a firearm first, you have now given your adversary the same defense.

As I was taught, if you are in fear of your life to the extent that you pull a weapon, then you should be in fear of your life to the extent to use it. The argument being that if you don't use your weapon, then you weren't actually in fear of your life.

The lawyers will decide that one while you're sitting in court.

My thinking is, if the only thing that stood between my wife and multiple opponents was myself with a revolver, and they showed no indication to break off the engagement, I would PROBABLY start things by changing the odds we were facing.

Of course I live in Bugtussell, don't lock my doors, and although I have a CCW, the only time I've carried was when I was changing locks for some people who were have a heated domestic at the time.

Chas

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Zeke

1. Noted.
2. But I could have been over the top.
3. It's "unbecoming."

There was no need for me to personalize.

I have an unique perspective on firearms but that is no excuse.

Sorry for the verbal vomit.

I have a unique perspective on firearms as well. 99.9% of the time, I don't give them a second thought.

And probably 75% of the time when I do, it's because I'm stupid enough to become engaged in one of these mindless discussions as we are currently having.

Chas

[merrylander]

The closest thing to a situation was really rather funny in the end. Was over ten years ago Florence and me went into DC to see Les Miserables. DC is strange, most parking garages close at 5:30 or so. This one said you can park on the ramp because we only lock the gates at the top.

After the show we walked back to the garage and saw a group of young men sitting by their idling car. Now we were driving a new Ford Probe but parked behind it was and older Toyota sedan. We quickly got into the car and drove out. I gather that they thought these two older folks were driving the sedan so they figured to get on with the task of stealing the Probe after we left. The looks on their faces were priceless.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Makes me wonder how they quantify CCW shootings?

Had you pulled a weapon, you would likely be dead.

You shoot a bad guy, it's not a crime

Originally Posted by Charles

Personally, if I were in the position you were in at the abandoned theater, once the leader informed me, with a pistol at his head, that there were three of them, there would have been two of them and I would have had five rounds left.

Chas

I'm hanging with this guy.

I can't believe I'm actually arguing the topic, that I'm NOT safer with a gun on me.

Pete

[Bigerik]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

You shoot a bad guy, it's not a crime



I'm hanging with this guy.

I can't believe I'm actually arguing the topic, that I'm NOT safer with a gun on me.

Pete

And how much safer would the world be if everyone was armed. Just imagine! The world would be a perfect place then.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

You shoot a bad guy, it's not a crime

When you're actually shooting, it's pretty difficult to determine who the "Bad Guys" are, especially if you're typical John Q. And, if you're wrong, the Bad Guy is in the mirror.

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I'm hanging with this guy.

The guy who was exceedingly fortunate due to misplaced bravado? BRILLIANT! (Not.)

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I can't believe I'm actually arguing the topic, that I'm NOT safer with a gun on me.

Me either, because it is pretty evident that -- in most instances -- you're not.

[piece-itpete]

Which do you prefer - 'The Great Equalizer' or 'The Peacemaker'?

I think I'm having a flashback or maybe I've been transported to bizarro world. When are the Dems announcing that they are nominating Jeb Bush to run against the Republican Obama?

Pete

[piece-itpete]

Facts aside, Zeke?

Pete

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Facts aside, Zeke?

Pete

When you rationalize that "it doesn't count when you shoot Bad Guys," without being able to specify who they are...