Barack H. Obama and your Second Amendment Rights !

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You sure take your wife to some nice places.

Well Finn,

The first place she intended to goto alone, I had to insist on taking her.

The second place was in downtown Philadelphia, on Market Street, after a movie let out. We were walking to our parked car, on what looked like an empty street.

Hell Finn this was Sunday School compared to Veit Nam, their they just killed you first, then took what they liked, from your dead body.

Bill

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

Hell Finn this was Sunday School compared to Veit Nam, their they just killed you first, then took what they liked, from your dead body.

Bill

Did that ever happen to you?

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

The first confrontation occurred as I escorted my wife to a business in Camden, NJ. The business turned out to be on an old industrial section, with most of the businesses closed down. As we approached the building, two men exited a deep dark doorway and came towed us. I placed her behind me, and watched the two men continue to approach us. I opened my coat when they reached about 6 feet from us. At that point one of the men opened his coat. at that time I drew my pistol, and informed him that I do not have anything worth dieing for, and that I do not wish to kill him, but will if he makes me. He closed his coat and returned to their dark doorway. We conducted her business and I left the building first, with my gun in my hand and my hand in my coat pocket, I checked the area out, gathered my wife, and exited in our car.

The second attack, Occurred on a darkened city street. Three men walked out of the entryway of a closed Movie Theater in front of us, demanding money, I informed them that I had none. They insisted that I give them my wallet so that they could see for themselves. There leader began approaching us, I stepped in front of my wife and daughter and drew my pistol, pointing it directly at his head and told him to leave, he laughed and informed me that there were three of them, and I responded that, that's two bullets each, more than enough. He looked back at his accomplices and they encouraged him to leave. Which they did.

These occurrences are not exciting, it is not necessary to prove my ability with a firearm, only to insure the safety of my family.

I have never found pleasure killing anything. But I also learned many years ago; "That a Mans Got To Do, When A Mans Got To Do It". Meaning to the best of my understanding, that A Man must do things he finds distasteful or unpleasant, If he is to be a MAN.

Sincerely,

Bill

Personally, if I were in the position you were in at the abandoned theater, once the leader informed me, with a pistol at his head, that there were three of them, there would have been two of them and I would have had five rounds left.

Chas

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

it is not necessary to prove my ability with a firearm, only to insure the safety of my family.

Good, because you failed at both.

In either instance, if they wanted you, they had you.

The issue here is the use of the word "dark" in both scenarios. (If you don't control the environment, you do not control the confrontation.)

They left you alone because they really weren't that interested and didn't know what they would do with a woman and child after beating you up. In sum, your presumed "Ace in the hole" worked only because they weren't hardened enough to actually be in the game.

"Thugs" not "criminals."

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

A Man must do things he finds distasteful or unpleasant, If he is to be a MAN.

And that's the biggest load of John Wayne bullshit I've ever seen on this site.

A "MAN" bothers to ask why such things must be done, regardless of the neanderthal brainwashed masses throwing Patriotism or pseudo-masculinity at them.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Good, because you failed at both.

In either instance, if they wanted you, they had you.

The issue here is the use of the word "dark" in both scenarios. (If you don't control the environment, you do not control the confrontation.)

They left you alone because they really weren't that interested and didn't know what they would do with a woman and child after beating you up. In sum, your presumed "Ace in the hole" worked only because they weren't hardened enough to actually be in the game.

"Thugs" not "criminals."

In other words, there is no defense against back shooters?

If that is the argument, I'll agree.

Taking Bill at his word, he makes a strong case not only the possession of a firearm, but concealed carry as well.

Chas

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by Zeke

And that's the biggest load of John Wayne bullshit I've ever seen on this site.

A "MAN" bothers to ask why such things must be done, regardless of the neanderthal brainwashed masses throwing Patriotism or pseudo-masculinity at them.

Yes he does Zeke,

But when you must do what you dread, dislike, find distasteful or unpleasant, he does them. He doesn't cry and stamp his feet, he does what is needed to be done, when it's needed to be done.

Perhaps you have found yourself unable to do things ,that you knew that you should have done. That's not my problem. If I find that there is something that needs to be done today, it will be done today.

Bill

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by Charles

Personally, if I were in the position you were in at the abandoned theater, once the leader informed me, with a pistol at his head, that there were three of them, there would have been two of them and I would have had five rounds left.

Chas

Well Chas,

The theater was closed not abandoned.

And do you know all the trouble that you go through when you kill someone !

I always do what is necessary, not what I might like to do in a situation like this.

And if I wished to lie here, I would have killed all of these fockers, just to teach them a lesson. Who do they think their fockin with.
But I'll leave the Bull Shit to Zeke, he's an expert !

Bill

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Good, because you failed at both.

In either instance, if they wanted you, they had you.

The issue here is the use of the word "dark" in both scenarios. (If you don't control the environment, you do not control the confrontation.)

They left you alone because they really weren't that interested and didn't know what they would do with a woman and child after beating you up. In sum, your presumed "Ace in the hole" worked only because they weren't hardened enough to actually be in the game.

"Thugs" not "criminals."

Sorry to disagree with you Zeke,

If they wanted me, and proceeded any further, they would have died.

And can you read, it was a deep dark doorway, I didn't say it was DARK ???

The second attack occurred on a DARKENED STREET, the stores were closed and they were unlit, the street lights were still on, and I could clearly see them ounce they emerged from the CLOSED theaters un-illuminated entrance.

I knew it would be insane of me to respond to this

I ounce believed that you might have been a police officer Zeke, but your review of my situations described here, you would not be accepted as a security guard in a county dump.

Sincerely,

Bill

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

I knew it would be insane of me to respond to this

And yet you couldn't help yourself.

Who is actually in control, here?

I assure you, you're not what most would consider to be a man.