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Old 10-01-2015, 06:00 PM
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To my understanding, no classified info was transmitted except what was declared classified after the fact by all the different agencies involved.

The communication channel for classified documents is called SIPRnet for DoD and State. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIPRNet
I really am not capable of discerning what constitutes classified emails Bob. So to put it differently; if HRC was planning on using her family server for official and personal emails, she should have planned it differently. She instead delegated this her staff, who may not have been the most knowledgeable. There may be nothing there but guess what, the digging will continue along with the bleeding. Who the hell is even remotely paying attention to her campaign? But everyone seems to be listening in on the server fiasco.

Time to get over her and start to feel the Bern.
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Old 10-01-2015, 06:58 PM
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To my understanding, no classified info was transmitted except what was declared classified after the fact by all the different agencies involved.

The communication channel for classified documents is called SIPRnet for DoD and State. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIPRNet
"It's born classified," said J. William Leonard, a former director of the U.S. government's Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO). Leonard was director of ISOO, part of the White House's National Archives and Records Administration, from 2002 until 2008, and worked for both the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.

"If a foreign minister just told the secretary of state something in confidence, by U.S. rules that is classified at the moment it's in U.S. channels and U.S. possession," he said in a telephone interview, adding that for the State Department to say otherwise was "blowing smoke."

The State Department's own regulations, as laid out in the Foreign Affairs Manual, have been unequivocal since at least 1999: all department employees "must ... safeguard foreign government and NATO RESTRICTED information as U.S. Government Confidential" or higher, according to the version in force in 2009, when these particular emails were sent.

"Confidential" is the lowest U.S. classification level for information that could harm national security if leaked, after "top secret" and "secret".

State Department staff, including the secretary of state, receive training on how to classify and handle sensitive information, the department has said. In March, Clinton said she was "certainly well aware" of classification requirements.
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Old 10-01-2015, 07:22 PM
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To my understanding, no classified info was transmitted except what was declared classified after the fact by all the different agencies involved.

The communication channel for classified documents is called SIPRnet for DoD and State. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIPRNet
Wouldn't you expect that immediate messages might go to the SoS before classifiers had a chance to do their work? Do you believe that the SoS always works one step behind classifiers? She could type many things on emails that would be classified the instant she wrote them. That's precisely why this thing is a problem.
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Old 10-01-2015, 07:24 PM
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I really am not capable of discerning what constitutes classified emails Bob. So to put it differently; if HRC was planning on using her family server for official and personal emails, she should have planned it differently. She instead delegated this her staff, who may not have been the most knowledgeable. There may be nothing there but guess what, the digging will continue along with the bleeding. Who the hell is even remotely paying attention to her campaign? But everyone seems to be listening in on the server fiasco.

Time to get over her and start to feel the Bern.
A vote for Bernie is a vote for Bush (or whomever the Rebumlicans choose). I see McCarthy's revelation on Pox News don't mean diddly to you or Finn.

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Old 10-01-2015, 07:25 PM
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Meanwhile the GOP frontrunner is either a racist, or uses racism as weapon to gain popularity.
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Old 10-01-2015, 07:29 PM
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Wouldn't you expect that immediate messages might go to the SoS before classifiers had a chance to do their work? Do you believe that the SoS always works one step behind classifiers? She could type many things on emails that would be classified the instant she wrote them. That's precisely why this thing is a problem.
I'm still waiting for proof that any of her work emails contradict her statements. You of all folk should realize that D.C. is ridiculous when it come to classifying anything and everything that isn't a fire hydrant. Oh, wait - those are classified too.
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Old 10-01-2015, 07:48 PM
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The Fox news report stated "It is unclear if Clinton clicked on any of the attachments and exposed her account to hackers." That means that they have no proof that she did, and she most likely didn't, but they will use as much innuendo as they can muster to create the impression that she exposed her email to hackers. But your point about her not driving is relevant. How could someone with her obvious intelligence have fallen for such a scam under those circumstances. I wouldn't expect her to. Would you?

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Nope. I don't hold her in very high esteem but I don't doubt her intelligence either.

Her handling of the e-mail debacle indicates to me that maybe she is way out of touch with the great unwashed public. She seems (IMO) to think that she is above the rest of us, and that is not what I would want in the President's office. BTW, she is not alone in that respect.
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Old 10-01-2015, 07:51 PM
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I know, brother. I wasn't calling you a wingnut, sorry if it appeared that way. I just thought it funny how these PACs have been hunting the Clintons for over two decades and all they got for their trouble is a blue dress and a cigar.
I didn't take it that way. I just wanted to further explain my comment.

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Old 10-01-2015, 08:19 PM
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I didn't take it that way. I just wanted to further explain my comment.

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Old 10-01-2015, 09:28 PM
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Thanks, Kevin McCarthy. This email nonsense is deader than roadkill.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...919_story.html
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