Who Killed Sandra Bland?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Miss?

No.

You just gloriously failed to score.

A blind fool (presuming you can see so there's a difference) is a superior marksman than you.

Talk about a "fail"!

There ought to be a law against torturing the English language like that.

But then you'd probably get off because the actions of a gerund made you fear for your life.

[donquixote99]

Tortured thinking ==> tortured language.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Miss?

No.

You just gloriously failed to score.

A blind fool (presuming you can see so there's a difference) is a superior marksman than you.

A Virginia Slims is a weapon....and we're stretching. The blind fool is in your bathroom mirror.

[Zeke]

Fire is a weapon.

Get out of my bathroom mirror.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Fire is a weapon.

Get out of my bathroom mirror.

When did you ever share a bathroom mirror, eh Zeke?

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Fire is a weapon.

Cigarettes only smolder.
No flame, no fire.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

Cigarettes only smolder.
No flame, no fire.

When cigarettes are outlawed, only outlaws will have cigarettes.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Miss?

No.

You just gloriously failed to score.

A blind fool (presuming you can see so there's a difference) is a superior marksman than you.

I actually was not a Marksman, Zeke. Marksman barely qualifies in the Corps. I was an M-14 Rifle Expert, with 100% 10 for 10, in the silhouette from 500 yards. What were you?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I actually was not a Marksman, Zeke. Marksman barely qualifies in the Corps. I was an M-14 Rifle Expert, with 100% 10 for 10, in the silhouette from 500 yards. What were you?

500 yards.

Shit, I couldn't even see the silhouette from 500 years let alone hit it.

We only shot from 100 yards in Air Farce basic.

And we used the M-16 which I'm sure is a lot easier to shoot than that heavy .308 that the M-14 uses.

I got 58 out of 60 in the silhouette which was second best in our flight of 50 dudes. One guy who was some kind of Junior NRA expert got all 60. But there was no designation that came with your score. You either qualified, or you didn't. All you needed to qualify was 48. There were actually about a half a dozen dudes that couldn't even do that. That's how pathetic the Air Farce is.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

500 yards.

Shit, I couldn't even see the silhouette from 500 years let alone hit it.

We only shot from 100 yards in Air Farce basic.

And we used the M-16 which I'm sure is a lot easier to shoot than that heavy .308 that the M-14 uses.

I got 58 out of 60 in the silhouette which was second best in our flight of 50 dudes. One guy who was some kind of Junior NRA expert got all 60. But there was no designation that came with your score. You either qualified, or you didn't. All you needed to qualify was 48. There were actually about a half a dozen dudes that couldn't even do that. That's how pathetic the Air Farce is.

Well...you guys generally weren't getting into firefights with anybody so why make a big deal out of the rifle training. It's a little known fact that among Marines and Army guys, only 3 in 10 ever fired a shot in combat. That number may have been a bit higher in the Marine Corps, but not all that much higher.

As far as rifle qualifying goes...the M-14 is actually the much more accurate weapon, particularly from anywhere beyond 100 yards. The much more deadly weapon as well with the 7.62mm NATO round. The guys who actually had the opportunity to use both weapons in combat reported that the M-14 had real stopping power compared with the little Matty Mattel gun with the 5.56 round. You could carry a lot more 5.56 ammunition but you had to hit the guy so many times to stop him...what difference does it make? But with the 7.62 on any weapon, even the M4 Carbine, the recoil was just impossible...you really couldn't fire any 7.62 weapon accurately on automatic at all, not even the Kalashnikov. I liked the M-14...of course it was the only actual rifle I ever fired in my life (except for 5 rounds from an M-16 one day at the range at the RTC at Great Lakes), and the only time I fired it was on the rifle range at Pendleton.

I think I told this story before but maybe not...so if I did, my apologies for the redundancy in advance. On qualifying day they took the 8 or 9 of us who fired 100% from 500 yards down to the end of the firing line where they had this little tent set up...they called it a "hooch". There we were impressed with the need for us to volunteer for scout/sniper school. A few did, those of us who refused paid with considerable physical abuse that night back at the squadbay. But what strategy did they use in their sales pitch? That you're proud, patriotic Americans who want to do your duty for your god and your country? Fuck no. They showed us grisly photos of VC and NVA sniper casulaties...mostly long-range casualties where the tumbling round did the most damage. Entry wound below the left shoulder blade...exit wound...the entire right front side of the abdomen blown out. Really terrible stuff. Because they didn't want motivated patriots, they wanted sick sociopaths who would enjoy this sort of shit. I will never go see the glorification of sickness in "American Sniper". It's bullshit. Anybody who wanted that job was a sick motherfucker right outta the gate. And the people who were the best at it were the most disturbed.