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06-08-2014, 08:54 PM
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I certainly don't know what really happened, and we may never know what really happened, but what else would you expect him to say?
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Right, that's what I was thinking. Sorry, Bob.
What I get from the article is that what they're saying is this;
'Bergdahl says he was tortured and beaten. But, the guy appears to be mentally disturbed, so we really don't know whether to believe him or not. We'll let you know what further examination reveals.'
Dave
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06-08-2014, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Until someone proves otherwise, we will have to take him at his word. No?
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No. We determine if he's mentally messed up first, then gauge the validity of his "word" from there.
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06-08-2014, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JJIII
With a grain of salt.  Just like we take his platoon mates words.
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Exactly.
Dave
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06-08-2014, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
To me the military took care of me much better than the real world. Still does.
Plus it is hard to get fired if you are active duty, and you will never find the sense of camaraderie you do in the military. With the offbase housing allowance (tax free) an E-6 in Southern California makes about almost 5k a month.
Oh you may have to work over 40 hours (duty,deployments,etc) a week. But you will never get screwed out of your mortgage money by some bullshit flexing rules imposed by corporate in the name of saving money.
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On average, how many E5 do you suppose advance to E6 these days?
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06-08-2014, 10:24 PM
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On average, how many E5 do you suppose advance to E6 these days?
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I do not know. In many cases it depends on the need for that persons Naval Enlisted Classification (Job). Those in an overmanned skill that is not as necessary as another skill face a more difficult time making E-6. Conversely those in a skill deemed necessary may have an easier time making it. Especially if there is shortage in that rating.
but it is possible.....most of my contemporaries have made e-6 and e-7
in short if a computer cannot do the job the better chance you may be able to stay in the military for 20 years but there are many other variables.
Many of the paperwork and admin jobs (i.e. payroll, what would be considered human resource jobs, etc) have been eliminated.
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06-08-2014, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
No. We determine if he's mentally messed up first, then gauge the validity of his "word" from there.
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I for one believe the kid. His desertion will be dealt with by the brass but that kind of behavior is nothing new in wartime, people snap and wander off for all sorts of reasons. All I can say is that he's lucky that the crazies didn't saw his head off for a gruesome recruitment video.
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06-08-2014, 11:44 PM
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I don't know whether to believe him or not.
If a man walked up to me and said he'd been gang raped by drunken space aliens, I'd tend to think he was nuts........
But I'd keep my eye on the sky for a while. Cuz Ya never really know, now do ya?
Dave
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06-09-2014, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mpholland
On average, how many E5 do you suppose advance to E6 these days?
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In the old days the only way to even be considered for E-6 was to re-up for another 4 years. And then suck some ass.
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06-09-2014, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
I don't know whether to believe him or not.
If a man walked up to me and said he'd been gang raped by drunken space aliens, I'd tend to think he was nuts........
But I'd keep my eye on the sky for a while. Cuz Ya never really know, now do ya?
Dave
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Reckon when we start to figure into our considerations of these sorts of incidents that the only wars this country was involved in that can be legitimized in any way began in 1941, 1861 and 1775.
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06-09-2014, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
I don't know whether to believe him or not.
If a man walked up to me and said he'd been gang raped by drunken space aliens, I'd tend to think he was nuts........
But I'd keep my eye on the sky for a while. Cuz Ya never really know, now do ya?
Dave
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What if we had talks with the drunken space aliens to get him back, he was finally dropped off by a saucer, and we had a big body of experience with the drunken space aliens pulling nasty shit?
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