Getting Rid of Holder

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Oerets

True you are closer and get different news daily then I. But where are the guns produced? How do they get to Mexico?

Lets find out those answers and deal with that!



Barney

Yeh, DJ can see Nogales from his back porch.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Fast and Furious ended in 2010, Issa and his witch hunters were seeking information from Feb 2011 two months after the border agent was killed. Now if that does not smell like a dead herring I don't know what does.

Congress' approval rating stands at 15% but after this bit of tomfoolery it will likely drop to 10%. There is some rich Texan and friends running a supr PAC especially aiming at incumbents regardless of party.

Originally Posted by Rex E.

This sounds good!

I saw that moron on t.v earlier today. Yeah, just vote out anyone who's in (Whether the individual is good or not.) and replace them with whomever they're running against (Even if that person is a total assclown.).........

And, this is good........How?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Yeh, DJ can see Nogales from his back porch.

ROTFLMAO. Good one Finn! Hehehehehe

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I saw that moron on t.v earlier today. Yeah, just vote out anyone who's in (Whether the individual is good or not.) and replace them with whomever they're running against (Even if that person is a total assclown.).........

And, this is good........How?

They would just be the casualties of "The War On Congress"

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

So lets if I have this story straight, the Bush administration in their war on drugs
implanted tracking devices into some guns and sold them undercover to
mexican smugglers. They notified the Mexican govt. and were only somewhat
succesfull at tracking them.
The Obama administration and ATF ordered some gun show dealers to sell
their guns without background checks or tracking devices installed to the
smugglers. A US border patrol agent was then killed with one of said weapons.
The ATF then went after the "shady" gun show dealers only to find out that
the gun dealers were smart enough to have taped the previous conversations
ordering them to sell the guns illegally. Then the shit hits the fan or the cover-
up begins.

Except for one small detail, ATF was running the whole deal and Obama and Holder had nowt to do with it. When Holder was informed of it he shut it down.

Also there was no conclusive evidence that Agent Terry was shot by either of the two rifles found beside his body.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I saw that moron on t.v earlier today. Yeah, just vote out anyone who's in (Whether the individual is good or not.) and replace them with whomever they're running against (Even if that person is a total assclown.).........

And, this is good........How?

They have not been successful at every turn, I suspect that if the voters know their representative is good they will keep them, just as we did here with Ben Cardin.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

They have not been successful at every turn, I suspect that if the voters know their representative is good they will keep them, just as we did here with Ben Cardin.

Right, and that is how it should be.

Voting someone out of office, just because he/she is in office and vote in whoever just happens to be running against them, regardless of qualification doesn't sound like a very intelligent move to me.

To my mind, gimmicks like this are what push us further down the road to ruin.

A properly informed and motivated electorate is the only answer. We'll never get there with simpleminded gimmicks and propaganda soaked, misinformed, "Birther" types cramming themselves into the booths to vote based on their blind, deluded angst.

This is how we end up with candidates (and Presidents) nobody really likes..............

Dave

[wgrr]

I love the newest conspiracy theory Lush Limpballs is promoting. It went viral on right wing sites a few days ago. The NRA is trumpeting it.

The F&F gun running program was being used to get as many guns into the hands of the drug cartels, as they could, so they could continue their war with the Mexican government. When the killing spills onto American soil it will outrage the American people so much that they will demand an assault weapons ban. Obama and crew will take that and run with it until they have taken all our guns away and have trampled all over the Second Amendment.

Right wing bullshit never ends. Obama has done nothing to control guns in anyway. He is not going to if he gets a second term.

I would be surprised if the whole Contempt of Congress thing blows up in the Republicans faces. The house will vote along party lines and Holder will be found in contempt of Congress. It will be the first time in US history that a top level cabinet member has been found to be in contempt of Congress. It is a complete waist of time. The issue is DOA when it is turned over to the DC courts. It has no legal legs to stand on civilly or criminally.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

WTF do you know about southern Az.? Please tell me how you are so educated about my state's border!

I'd like to learn what you know about southern Arizona, not what you've read or what you've heard but what you've actually seen with your own two jaundiced eyes.

John

[finnbow]

Holder handed this issue to Issa and his knuckledragging minions with his letter in which he denied that any such program existed. I'm a fan of telling the truth, taking your lumps and moving on, particularly in the political realm. Both parties are so afraid of any transgression/f*ck-up being turned into a campaign issues that they turn themselves into pretzels to avoid it. Pretty unsavory, IMHO.