Science and the south.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Finn, LOL! That's bad, bad lib

Noone forcing people what to teach their kids is the opposite of freedom, I'd think, and more like the ME.

Pete

Having minimum academic standards for publicly funded schools (that also receive some Federal funding, BTW) is hardly tyranny, particularly when poor education results in the need for even more Federal funds (e.g., Medicaid, unemployment benefits, etc.).

[piece-itpete]

Bob, then they shouldn't have to pay the public school, no?

Pete

[piece-itpete]

Finn, Cleveland isn't arguing with the Feds and they do a horrendous job actually teaching anything.

Pete

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Finn, LOL! That's bad, bad lib

Noone forcing people what to teach their kids is the opposite of freedom, I'd think, and more like the ME.

Pete

First we are in no way free.

Second, yes for the greater good we need to insist on teaching science over believing in magic. The greater good takes away so many freedoms that IMHO it is silly to call ourselves free in the first place.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Finn, LOL! That's bad, bad lib

Noone forcing people what to teach their kids is the opposite of freedom, I'd think, and more like the ME.

Pete

No. Not really.

Middle Eastern kids are not being dragged into the Madrassas to have recent scientific education thrust upon them. They're being brainwashed with ancient religious hullabaloo. You know, religion, the earliest form of government.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Having minimum academic standards for publicly funded schools (that also receive some Federal funding, BTW) is hardly tyranny, particularly when poor education results in the need for even more Federal funds (e.g., Medicaid, unemployment benefits, etc.).

I would think being forced to dogmatically adhere to antiquated, dried up ways of reasoning would be more tyrannical than anything else.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Bob, then they shouldn't have to pay the public school, no?

Pete

They don't pay for anything as it is. We're talkin' about po-dunk, where they're proud to have nothing and to have broken their backs to get it. They have no money in those places. That's why we must do it.

You do realize how much WELFARE money goes to APPALACHIA, don't you?

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Bob, then they shouldn't have to pay the public school, no?

Pete

Nope. They should pay their taxes like everyone else. I don't buy into the argument that an individual has a say in how the money is spent. (other than through what their elected representative can get passed) Democracy isn't a pick and choose scenario no matter what the libertarians think.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Nope. They should pay their taxes like everyone else. I don't buy into the argument that an individual has a say in how the money is spent. (other than through what their elected representative can get passed) Democracy isn't a pick and choose scenario no matter what the libertarians think.

"I shouldn't have to do ANYTHING that son of a bitch says! I didn't vote for him!"

I was told that, when I asked someone what he was going to do if the individual mandate is upheld.

Dave

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

"i shouldn't have to do anything that son of a bitch says! I didn't vote for him!"

i was told that, when i asked someone what he was going to do if the individual mandate is upheld.

Dave

lol!