I hope this has not already been posted. I find it very disturbing

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by CarlV

I see GZ put a website to plead for donations. Fool piece of shit.

Regardless of anything else, if he did not confront Trayvon, Trayvon would have gone home at his dad's and would still be alive.


Carl

The worst part is.....he'll get the money...from people who've already concluded he's innocent, but love to scewer those who've donated money to the Martin family and already concluded he's guilty----sans trial.

Funny me. I've always believed in "....innocent until proven guilty....

Can't prove anything, guilt or innocence without charges filed and trial held.

I think they're more concerned with protecting the underlying cause of this controversy, a law written by the NRA and staunchly supported by its membership, than they are with seeking any justice for George or Treyvon.

Thank heavens we have conservatives on hand to protect us from "special interests" and their single-minded agendas...........

Dave

[Charles]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

A very kind gentleman reminded me that there is great feeling behind this. Therefore I stop my often inappropriate humor and pray that the rule of law prevails, and healing comes to our often contradictory land.

Pete

I'm with Pete.

Chas

[Charles]

Originally Posted by bhunter

Parhaps, we just ought hang him in the town square. So much for innocence before conviction and all those pesky due process limitations.

Isn't that what's happening?

If it's determined that Zimmerman broke no laws, then it will be a rigged system, or the laws themselves, or the people who put the laws in place in the first place. Or the damned gun.

The one person who will NEVER be blamed, at least in some circles, it Trayvon. Of course, in some circles, there is no consideration given to the possibility that Trayvon initiated the confrontation and was in the process of beating Zimmerman to death whenever he was shot.

And to those who I refer to as "in some circles", have you never considered that in this instance you may be wrong?

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but in my estimation you have rushed to judgment without knowing all of the facts.

And I don't either, but I'm doing my level best to let due process take it's course and not advance an agenda at the same time.

If anyone still thinks that I'm pissing gasoline on their campfire, I guess there is nothing else that I can say to convince them differently.

Chas

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Charles

Isn't that what's happening?

If it's determined that Zimmerman broke no laws, then it will be a rigged system, or the laws themselves, or the people who put the laws in place in the first place. Or the damned gun.

The one person who will NEVER be blamed, at least in some circles, it Trayvon. Of course, in some circles, there is no consideration given to the possibility that Trayvon initiated the confrontation and was in the process of beating Zimmerman to death whenever he was shot.

You're absolutely right. And in other circles, Zimmermann is not just innocent, he is a hero. But as you stated, we don't have all of the facts yet, for this particular case.

Having said that, SYG crosses a line, IMO. Letting someone kill another and walk, strictly on his/her word that he/she felt threatened, without evidence that an actual threat existed is not good enough, IMO.

If the state cannot prove that Zimmermann shot for a nefarious reason, fine. Let him go.
But, they refuse to even try, Chas. That's the rub.

[bobabode]

Can't we just get a trial? It's starting to appear unlikely. The Grand jury has been denied a chance to review it by Florida's AG on the basis of not letting amateurs hear it and decide if it warrants a trial. I'm smelling a rat once again.

[BlueStreak]

At least an official statement as to why it doesn't warrant a trial?

Nope. Nothing. And that's where the trouble lies.

[Oerets]

The problem as I see it is there are those who will not be satisfied with anything less then a murder charge and then others who want no charges filed at all. I think a manslaughter or accidental will only upset both camps.


So now with reports of Zimmerman gone MIA and his lawyers walking away it just keeps getting more and more convoluted.



Barney

[barbara]

I can't say I blame zimmerman for disappearing.....he might run into someone who feels threatened by him and happens to be carrying a gun....

[barbara]

Chas.... I hear what you are saying and have given it a lot if consideration, trying to be open minded, looking at all points of view, at all possibilities.....

I agree that none of us knows what happened and lack enough solid facts to come to any sort of reasonable conclusions....

But, in all honesty, the bottom line for me in this tragic situation is the gun. If there were no gun in the equation, no one would have been shot dead. No matter who the aggressor was.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

At least an official statement as to why it doesn't warrant a trial?

Nope. Nothing. And that's where the trouble lies.

I agree.It's going to be a long hot summer if this keeps up. The duty to retreat from a hostile situation has been a long held doctrine in common law. What is the reasoning behind this SYG law? Anybody got a rational answer?