Who has changed their mind about Obama since 2008?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by electronjohn

I refuse to compromise personal beliefs that I've held since high school. And that's been a lonnnng time. My very first Presidential ballot was cast for George McGovern...and I have zero interest in changing now. The old saying of "vote your personal interests" is as valid now as it ever was. Why should I get on board with allowing the rich to get richer...at the expense of myself and others of equally modest means?

That's what absolutely baffles me about certain people of lesser socioeconomic strata: How could they possibly support a party that intends to bind them even more firmly into economic slavery?

Originally Posted by RamblinE

Jesus.

I think you might be onto something, RamblinE.............

Care to expound upon that?

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by mezz

I can tell you that I do know some black men and women who, due primarily to this president's critical want of integrity, find the reality that Obama will be the person to represent that milestone in history to be a rather embarrassing bit of misfortune.

So, as we lament Mr. Obamas "lack of integrity" his flip-flopping and lying, we turn to.............Mitt Romney?

Please.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

What do you do when certain "liberties" are causing very real and very damaging economic problems?

I guess THAT depends on persective and the issue at hand as well?

Dave

Reposted, because I'd really like to know.

Dave

[mezz]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

So, as we lament Mr. Obamas "lack of integrity" his flip-flopping and lying, we turn to.............Mitt Romney?

Please.

Dave

You could line up a long list of Obama's faults and cancel them out by supposing Romney had all the same ones (although not even remotely likely) and matching them up. What you'd have left is nothing on the Obama side and a huge list of positive accomplishments and character traits on the Romney side.

Romney probably wouldn't be my first choice in a vacuum, but I supported him over McCain in 2008 and will be happy to see him sworn in as POTUS #45 next January 20.

He is 50 times the leader, 100 times the administrator, 75 times as decisive, and -150 times the liar that Obama is. Obama really is a pathetic choice in 2012 (as he was in 2008 but not many people knew it back then). Admit that you'd have rather seen Hillary win the nomination in '08.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by bhunter

I don't think many conservatives are currently against most of the civil rights and limits on law enforcement that came from the Warren Court. Roe and Doe were, IMHO, the cases that really caused the problem. My problem with the PPACA is that if it's upheld there is no limit to Federal power; and that, certainly goes against the premise of a limiting document such as our Constitution.

I realize that I swore to honor and uphold the Constitution but the more I see of the government it created I just shake my head and wonder exactly what the Framers were doing.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by mezz

You could line up a long list of Obama's faults and cancel them out by supposing Romney had all the same ones (although not even remotely likely) and matching them up. What you'd have left is nothing on the Obama side and a huge list of positive accomplishments and character traits on the Romney side.

Romney probably wouldn't be my first choice in a vacuum, but I supported him over McCain in 2008 and will be happy to see him sworn in as POTUS #45 next January 20.

He is 50 times the leader, 100 times the administrator, 75 times as decisive, and -150 times the liar that Obama is. Obama really is a pathetic choice in 2012 (as he was in 2008 but not many people knew it back then). Admit that you'd have rather seen Hillary win the nomination in '08.

Have any specific examples rather than conclusory allegations?

Regards,

D-Ray

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by mezz

Being relatively new here I guess I'm not really privy to your (and that of some others) clarification of your stance on capitalism and free markets.

We saw in 2008 just what unfettered free markets can do. Having lived through the Great Depression I can tell you that it was not so great. The right wing belief that THE MARKET is some sort of sentient being is insane.

Capitalism when properly regulated is an excellent system but as greed is still rampant it must needs be regulated.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by mezz

You could line up a long list of Obama's faults and cancel them out by supposing Romney had all the same ones (although not even remotely likely) and matching them up. What you'd have left is nothing on the Obama side and a huge list of positive accomplishments and character traits on the Romney side.

Romney probably wouldn't be my first choice in a vacuum, but I supported him over McCain in 2008 and will be happy to see him sworn in as POTUS #45 next January 20.

He is 50 times the leader, 100 times the administrator, 75 times as decisive, and -150 times the liar that Obama is. Obama really is a pathetic choice in 2012 (as he was in 2008 but not many people knew it back then). Admit that you'd have rather seen Hillary win the nomination in '08.

The only fault I see in Obama is that he has been far too nice to the GOP. Romney is a corporate hack---Which means I have ZERO faith that he will do anything that benefits me, or anyone else that isn't already at the top.

I think the thing that galls the GOP the most....Is that we are recovering despite their obstruction.

Dave

[mezz]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

The only fault I see in Obama is that he has been far too nice to the GOP.

After three years I'd be rather concerned about my sense of 'sight' if I could make a statement like that without poking my cheek with my tongue.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by mezz

After three years I'd be rather concerned about my sense of 'sight' if I could make a statement like that without poking my cheek with my tongue.

Based upon what I've read, I don't think you "see," anyway.