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Old 04-01-2012, 03:53 PM
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All I know is that the kid would not be shot had there been no gun.

Depending upon what actually occurred, we can debate whether that is good or bad but it is the only thing of which we can be certain.
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:01 PM
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I'm also certain that Zimmerman was told to back off, or "...we don't need you to do that." when asked if he was following Trayvon. Same thing to my mind. And if he had backed off at that point no one would be dead.

A yahoo playing Dirty Harry----and doesn't even have the badge. That's what it smells like to me.

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Old 04-01-2012, 04:39 PM
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I'm also certain that Zimmerman was told to back off, or "...we don't need you to do that." when asked if he was following Trayvon. Same thing to my mind. And if he had backed off at that point no one would be dead.

A yahoo playing Dirty Harry----and doesn't even have the badge. That's what it smells like to me.

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As I explained before the big problem for Zimmerman is the fact that he played "Dirty Harry" and made his day. Police officers can pursue a suspect and can question them, detain them, arrest them, or use deadly force if necessary. All Zimmerman was was a stalker who scared the shit out of a seventeen year old boy and then killed him.

Zimmerman had previous incidents with the Sanford police. The most serious was the assault of an undercover police officer, in a bar, who was trying to arrest some bartenders for serving drinks to minors. Zimmerman was charged with a felony that was later reduced to a misdemeanor. Then all three of his arrests magically disappeared off his record. The other two were for domestic violence and hindering a police officer without assaulting him. If the felony had stuck, Zimmerman wouldn't have been allowed to buy a gun, and if he did buy a gun, it would have been an illegal gun.

What I find amazing is that his first three brushes with the law got him arrested. Then, when he kills a black kid, the Sanford PD doesn't give a shit and lets him go free.

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Old 04-01-2012, 06:38 PM
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I think I will go and buy some Skittles, Wish me luck! Oh wait I am white!

When is George Z going to at LEAST be arrested for man slaughter and face his day in court? Can not be soon enough!
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:47 PM
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Being unfamiliar with the way neighborhood watch works, was Zippy trained in any way or instructed as to the laws? Sworn in ? Wearing a badge?

If not then he was just an armed nosy neighbor who picked a fight with a unarmed kid. Then if we were to believe his story started loosing and pulled the gun and killed the teenager.
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I'm curious as to whether the HOA knew he was patroling their community?
If their board of directors knew what he was doing - every property in that community ain't worth a plugged nickel.

Does anyone know if Zimmerman was an actual owner?
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:32 PM
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I'm curious as to whether the HOA knew he was patroling their community?
If their board of directors knew what he was doing - every property in that community ain't worth a plugged nickel.

Does anyone know if Zimmerman was an actual owner?
The HOA newsletter identified Zimmerman as someone to contact about neighborhood watch. OOPS!

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Old 04-01-2012, 10:08 PM
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The HOA newsletter identified Zimmerman as someone to contact about neighborhood watch. OOPS!

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I wonder if it's the kind of neighborhood with enough pull to keep the law at bay?

Most of the folks in my 'hood barely own the pot they piss in. One of my neighbors witnessed a mugging in progress and pulled his gun, but just chased them off. No one got shot. The cops knocked on his door to remind him to be careful about things like that, make damn sure he's in the right before he uses his weapon. If he had shot someone unarmed, I'm pretty sure he would have at least been an investigation, even though there was clearly a violent crime taking place.

Some neighborhoods you can't even get into without a gate card or password. And those places usually have the pull to influence things. Know what I mean?

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Old 04-02-2012, 07:59 AM
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. One of my neighbors witnessed a mugging in progress and pulled his gun, but just chased them off. No one got shot. The cops knocked on his door to remind him to be careful about things like that, make damn sure he's in the right before he uses his weapon. Dave
Yeah....maybe we should tell the muggers to stand beneath our window and we'll throw all the valuables we have out to them.

I WAS in a position to be a victim! Two men one night tried to push me into a car. If it were not for an older man walking his dog...I shudder to think what would have happened.
I have a feeling that when you are a victim or potential victim...your outlook on crime is different. I can tell you...its never forgotten and you are always aware.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:02 AM
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Yeah....maybe we should tell the muggers to stand beneath our window and we'll throw all the valuables we have out to them.

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Yeah, I see you point. If you can't murder a common thief what fun is it.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:05 AM
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he was just an armed nosy neighbor who picked a fight with a unarmed kid. Then if we were to believe his story started loosing and pulled the gun and killed the teenager.

Was not Trayvon exhibiting "stand your ground"?


"Screams on 911 tape aren’t George Zimmerman’s: experts"

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ticle-1.105406



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I think this is pretty obvious.
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