Barack H. Obama and your Second Amendment Rights ! - Page 18

merrylander · #**171** 03-10-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bhunter

... The democrats do a much better job at maintaining a common unity of purpose.

"I do not belong to any organized political party - I am a Democrat" Will Rogers.

Charles · #**172** 03-10-2012, 09:30 AM

I would think that three men approaching someone else in a threatening manner could easily be defined as an exhibition of lethal force. Since when do you need a gun, or a knife, or even an ink pen to kill someone?

And if these three men initiated the situation, then they would assume the responsibility of introducing lethal force into the equation. Besides, I believe the laws are generally written as to allow a defense for the use of lethal force if in fear of your life OR of bodily harm.

That's the way I see it. And let me tell you friends, the world isn't populated entirely by good Methodists.

Chas

Bigerik · #**173** 03-10-2012, 09:38 AM

Is $20 in your wallet worth more than a person's life?

Charles · #**174** 03-10-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Independent

Okay, then what I'd like to see is just any of the four left in the republican primary "denounce" anything off that list even though they know it's not true.

Won't happen. Hell, they wouldn't even scold Limbaugh for fear of retaliation from his devoted listeners, the 20% base of paranoid idiots.....

Indy

And if they're smart they won't.

Santorum was stupid enough to open his mouth and get caught in this "state v religion" debate, and Rush simply took bad to worse with his comments.

This issue is a loser for the Pubbies, as it is currently defined in the press.

If any of the candidates are stupid enough to make any kind of statement, no matter how rational, all they will succeed in doing it to continue this dog and pony show for a couple of more news cycles. And that would go for the rest of your "list".

It's what you call politics.

Chas

merrylander · #**175** 03-10-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigerik

Is $20 in your wallet worth more than a person's life?

The problem with that is the perps are showing an increasing tendency to take the $5 or $10 or $20 and then kill you. Possibly because they are high on drugs or worse strung out because they need a fix.

Charles · #**176** 03-10-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigerik

Is $20 in your wallet worth more than a person's life?

Or is someone elses $20 worth THEIR life, a question they should perhaps ask themselves before they put themselves in a position where they might get their head busted, or worse.

Perhaps if hoodlums offered a written guarantee that ALL they wanted was 20 bucks, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Or they could simply ask for it. I've yet to turn a slob down who was desperate enough to ASK me for money, by and large I don't give them all the want, because by and large their cock and bull story is nothing but a pack of lies, and they never repay me when they get their paycheck, as they always promise.

I've found that "loaning" someone $10 is just effective at making sure I'll never see them again as giving them $20.

Besides, this argument isn't about $20, it's about self defense. And to be honest, I've met people whose life wasn't worth $20.

Chas

finnbow · #**177** 03-10-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles

I would think that three men approaching someone else in a threatening manner could easily be defined as an exhibition of lethal force. Since when do you need a gun, or a knife, or even an ink pen to kill someone?

I'm not sure we want to declare open season on people who look scary to us.

Charles · #**178** 03-10-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander

The problem with that is the perps are showing an increasing tendency to take the $5 or $10 or $20 and then kill you. Possibly because they are high on drugs or worse strung out because they need a fix.

Some people simply enjoy it.

And that's the cold, hard, facts of life.

Chas

Charles · #**179** 03-10-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

I'm not sure we want to declare open season on people who look scary to us.

As far as I know, we haven't.

This is more of a discussion of situations and not appearances, IMHO.

Chas

Independent · #**180** 03-10-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles

And if they're smart they won't.

Santorum was stupid enough to open his mouth and get caught in this "state v religion" debate, and Rush simply took bad to worse with his comments.

This issue is a loser for the Pubbies, as it is currently defined in the press.

If any of the candidates are stupid enough to make any kind of statement, no matter how rational, all they will succeed in doing it to continue this dog and pony show for a couple of more news cycles. And that would go for the rest of your "list".

It's what you call politics.

Chas

I agree 100%!

But that will be their undoing.

As mentioned on some talk show I watched last night, once the republican party does have a clear-cut presidential representative, there is absolutely no way that person can keep ALL of the different factions of the republican party happy, no matter who it is.

Santorum = Far right wingnut.
Gingrich = Somewhere between Santorum & Romney.
Romney = Top 1% and Mormon with political leanings more towards the middle.
Paul = Libertarian and will never win the nomination.

To be honest, once all is said and done, I really believe Gingrich would have the best shot of beating Obama. Everyone else is leaning either too far one way, or the other....

Just my $.02

Indy