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Old 03-09-2012, 10:02 AM
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Is shooting a guy while he's trying to rob and or beat you a crime Zeke?

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Is shooting a guy while he's trying to rob and or beat you a crime Zeke?

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In many, many places, the answer to that question is "yes."

And I would agree with those places.

Me putting a bullet in a guy's skull because he bowed up on me is ludicrous and cowardly.
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Read any of the stories in that link? I have to accept a beating (or worse) in the name of someone's feelings?

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Old 03-09-2012, 12:33 PM
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Read any of the stories in that link? I have to accept a beating (or worse) in the name of someone's feelings?

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No.

But there are MANY alternatives to the one you seem to prefer.
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:42 PM
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They are?

Btw, I would prefer them to be law abiding citizens.

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They are?

Btw, I would prefer them to be law abiding citizens.

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I would prefer to ship them to Australia...
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I would prefer them to be law abiding citizens.
Until they do something illegal, they are.
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:26 PM
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Right. That's why I don't go around shooting poeple at random.

For the record, I don't carry a gun, yet. I don't think I want to. I'm unsure if I'd be able to shot someone. I think so. If they threatened my wife, certainly.

But if someone shoots someone else in self defense that is the attackers fault, not the shooters.

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But if someone shoots someone else in self defense that is the attackers fault, not the shooters.
Rabidly incorrect and why giving John Q. firearms is not always a good idea. (For example, I found neither of the moments when Bill brandished a firearm to have been particularly threatening.)

If you use deadly force prior to being threatened with it, that's on you in both a legal and moral sense.

Yes, that implies fault.
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Hence 'self defense'!! The hypothetical shooter COULDN'T be shooting in self defense if the other wasn't threatening him.

Gaaa! Are you messing with my head?

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