Barack H. Obama and your Second Amendment Rights !

[Charles]

Originally Posted by RamblinE

I'm not reading anything sourced from the NRA as it's probably based more in the realm of propaganda than facts.

I aspire to own a rifle someday, an M1903 Springfield or an 1898 Mauser.

However.

Handguns are made with one purpose in mind, killing other human beings. They should be banned and considered assault weapons.

Handguns are designed for portability, as a rule. By and large, they aren't designed for killing other humans. Even sidearms purpose built for the military and police are considered to be self defense weapons.

However, the two rifles you mentioned WERE designed for killing other humans. And the only reason I would buy either is as a collectable.

If you aspire to own a rifle, start with a .22. .22's are fun, getting beat up by high powered rifles isn't.

Chas

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

You being a computer guy, you would have to admit that computer logic would reject that statement. If no guns were available, there would no accidental gun deaths. Ipso facto, gun deaths are related to the availability of guns.


Sophistry aside, it appears that the AMA found statistical evidence to support the effectiveness of the Virginia's one gun per month limit. I suppose that there will be an opportunity for some comparative statistics, since the law was just repealed.

Regards,

D-Ray

You're right! I should have been more careful and qualified that statement. But alas, I have a sinus infection and my head hurts. I really do think that comparisons across countries or even across states is difficult.

[Bigerik]

Originally Posted by bhunter

It has more to do with culture and the demand for illegal drugs than on the availability of firearms:

Intentional Homicide By Country:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

Gun Ownership By Country:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_...ita_by_country

I'd also suggest that the greater homogeneity of a society the less conflict. Who's killing who sheds a bit of light on the cause.

Canada and the US ain't THAT different, but your homicide rate is 3 times higher.

[Bigerik]

Actually, based on the number of guns in the US in the chart above, I'm guessing you could stop the sale of guns completely tomorrow, and it would have no negative effect on the intentions of the drafters of the 2nd amendment. If getting nigh onto to parity in between guns and people does provide for enough of a militia, I don't know what will.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Bigerik

Canada and the US ain't THAT different, but your homicide rate is 3 times higher.

Meebee we got 3X the number of sumbitches who need killin'.

Chas

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by bhunter

You're right! I should have been more careful and qualified that statement. But alas, I have a sinus infection and my head hurts. I really do think that comparisons across countries or even across states is difficult.

I agree with you that eliminating the profitability of the criminal distribution of drugs would significantly improve our safety (and that of our neighbors in Mexico). Eliminating poverty would also significantly reduce crime. BTW, as much as I disagree with you about politics, I appreciate your honesty.

P.S. lots of fluids, Mucinex, and vitamin C. Feel better.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Charles]

Originally Posted by bhunter

You're right! I should have been more careful and qualified that statement. But alas, I have a sinus infection and my head hurts. I really do think that comparisons across countries or even across states is difficult.

I keep a stash of Fish Mox & Fish Flex just for that reason...speaking of sinus infections.

Damned doctors won't give me antibiotics any more.

Chas

[painter]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

It's a referral to Freud and "compensation". You know, men who are inadequate "down there" or suffer from other sexual insecurities must compensate with toys that make them feel masculine. Like a rack full of guns, for instance.

Dave

Then Its a damn good thing those guys at Bunker Hill were short changed...who knows what might have happened. Sorry...just couldn't miss the opportunity.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by Bigerik

Canada and the US ain't THAT different, but your homicide rate is 3 times higher.

What criteria are you using to compare the two countries?

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by painter

Then Its a damn good thing those guys at Bunker Hill were short changed...who knows what might have happened. Sorry...just couldn't miss the opportunity.

You're pretty good with euphemisms, ya know that?

Regards,

D-Ray