Ms. Parker brings the claws out

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

So she should just shut her mouth and be happy that they honored her by taking her tuition and fees?

Regards,

D-Ray

Yes she should,

She applied to this school for an education, not birth control.
And if she has a medical condition, it's up to her and her doctor to diagnose and treat her medical condition.

Bill

[d-ray657]

So if people are married, have a stable family life, work hard, pay their bills, pay taxes, contribute to charity, raise children to be responsible and self-sufficient, take care of their parents, obey the law, and even even enforce the law, they cannot be liberal. Is that your position, Bill?

Regards,

D-Ray

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

Yes she should,

She applied to this school for an education, not birth control.
And if she has a medical condition, it's up to her and her doctor to diagnose and treat her medical condition.

Bill

When I was in school, and while my boys have been in school, one of the regular fees we have paid has been for health services. I can't assume that it is any different at Georgetown. It seems to me that she has an interest in seeing that Georgetown plays by the same rules as anyone else.

Regards,

D-Ray

[CarlV]

Interesting thread. BC pills do a lot more for a woman's health other than BC. Nothing wrong with BC too. IMO they should be made available for whatever reason the woman's doctor writes the script for.
It should all be between a woman and her doctor. Please call me some more names Bill.


Carl

[painter]

Gentlemen...I have been reading all your comments on this subject of birth control and as usual...I find no remark of responsibility on the men! Back in the day...some men carried protection.
Now...pregnancy is not a medical condition. A medical condition is a disease...look it up. Monitoring of a pregnancy can be beneficial...but not always necessary.
Some of us have been successful in getting doctors to recognize for decades... to take pregnancy out of the disease category. When I delivered my children it required a five day stay in the hospital...now an overnight or home delivery is the norm.
Should we all pay for birth control?? You bet!... We are paying for the welfare of many children...after the fact... when it mounts to more than $1,000 a year.
My advise to the young women of Georgetown??? Go to the nearest Planned Parenthood.

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Birth control pills should be treated no differently than any other prescription medication. Once a woman and her doctor have determined that it is advisable for her to use such medication, IT'S NOBODY ELSE'S DAMN BUSINESS WHY SHE NEEDS IT.

I agree, if she has a medical condition that can be treated by birth control.

Perhaps you missed the part where Limbaugh said that he wanted Ms. Fluke to make a video of sexual acts for his entertainment purposes. That is the type of "criticism" to which one exposes herself by making public statements? Limbaugh's comments would be out of bounds if the subject of his pathetic rambling were the Secretary of State or the Governor of Alaska.

Rush was making a point that if this woman wanted public assistance, she should do something in return for this assistance. While he is almost as emphatic as Liberal pundents, such as Bill Mayer, he did make the point.

Do you ever tire of making moral equivalences? Why should what anyone else did justify the perversion demonstrated by Rush Limbaugh? Are you really taking the position that she deserved what Limbaugh dished out?

Perhaps not, but when you take a public position, on a public forum, you open yourself to criticism from the public. Just how do you believe a Liberal pundit would have responder if they did not believe her testimony ?



Would your position be different if the person testifying was a married mother of two children, who worked and struggled to make ends meet and whose family is in no position to add another person? Those individuals would also be denied access to this prescription medication if their employers got the special treatment they seek.

If it was the employers religious beliefs that birth control was murder NO!
If the medication was needed to treat a medical condition, other than preventing a normal safe pregnancy. YES !
Pregnancy is not a medical condition, pregnancy is a choice that you either enter upon by choice, or by indifference, carelessness, stupidity.

Bottom line: there is a prescription medication that prevents pregnancy. Pregnancy is a condition that requires medical treatment - and can change the course of one's life. This is a condition that only affects women. By what moral authority do you or anyone else have the right to single out this medication for exclusion from all other medications available to enhance the health of individuals?

Answered above.

Regards,

D-Ray

Regards,
Bill

[painter]

For what its worth...sometimes further research helps.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...budget_anymore

There are Planned parenthood clinics within three miles.

[merrylander]

Ladies and gentlemen, y'all seem to forget that nothing in medicine is 100%, birth control does not always work -and I am the living proof of that.

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Birth control pills should be treated no differently than any other prescription medication. Once a woman and her doctor have determined that it is advisable for her to use such medication, IT'S NOBODY ELSE'S DAMN BUSINESS WHY SHE NEEDS IT.

Perhaps you missed the part where Limbaugh said that he wanted Ms. Fluke to make a video of sexual acts for his entertainment purposes. That is the type of "criticism" to which one exposes herself by making public statements? Limbaugh's comments would be out of bounds if the subject of his pathetic rambling were the Secretary of State or the Governor of Alaska.

Do you ever tire of making moral equivalences? Why should what anyone else did justify the perversion demonstrated by Rush Limbaugh? Are you really taking the position that she deserved what Limbaugh dished out?

I'll answer your questions when you bother to answer mine. I will say this: the left wants to make this all about a woman's "medical needs.". That's the farthest thing possible from the truth. Ms Fluke was singled out specifically by Pelosi and company becuase:

- She attends a Jesuit University, and part of what is on trial here are the Church's teachings about sexuality and procreation.

- She is an activist. She's not an activist regarding public health. She's an activist about reproductive rights. Why the hell she chose Georgetown - she had to know about the institutions beliefs going in - and then became a Chairperson while at Georgetown of a "Reproductive Rights" activist group - doesn't strike anyone else as just a bit odd?

- While she's careful to throw out some red herrings about fellow students and their medical need for birth control pills, she makes clear that it's a big strain on her budget - while dishing out $100K per year for tuition, books, fees, room and board at a rather expensive University - to come up with $3K per year to keep from getting knocked up. She's pissed at The Jesuits for not footing the bill so she can have sex without consequence? That doesn't strike anyone as a bit tone deaf?

Sorry. I can't feel too sorry for this rather insensitive and self-centered human.

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Would your position be different if the person testifying was a married mother of two children, who worked and struggled to make ends meet and whose family is in no position to add another person? Those individuals would also be denied access to this prescription medication if their employers got the special treatment they seek.

Bottom line: there is a prescription medication that prevents pregnancy. Pregnancy is a condition that requires medical treatment - and can change the course of one's life. This is a condition that only affects women. By what moral authority do you or anyone else have the right to single out this medication for exclusion from all other medications available to enhance the health of individuals?

Bottom line, this ain't about access to prescription medication, at least not for Ms Fluke. This is about Ms Fluke, and her handlers in the Democrat party, taking a private religious institution to task a Congressional hearing for not picking up the tab for a student to act in a manner that goes against that institutions religious beliefs. Can't get much more plain than that, counselor.

[whell]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Ladies and gentlemen, y'all seem to forget that nothing in medicine is 100%, birth control does not always work -and I am the living proof of that.

Not to mention that individuals who take birth control pills face a significantly increased risk for developing liver cancer and a slightly increased risk of breast cancer.

Hell, I thing we need to treat birth control pills like cigarettes because of the increased health risks for taking birth control pills. All those law school students for reproductive justice would really get their panties in a knot over that!