Ms. Parker brings the claws out

[d-ray657]

Is there a good rationale for excluding contraceptives from other forms of medications covered by medical plans? If you are designing medical plans for cost savings, which was part of the purpose of the health care reform, you would most certainly want to include contraceptives. The only reason to exclude contraceptives is to impose a narrow moral code on beneficiaries of medical plans.

I'm surprised that your medical plan excludes allergy medications. It seems like keeping allergies under control also lessens the chance of other infections.

My resolution for Lent precludes me from providing a more colorful description of what I think of Mr. Limbaugh.

Regards,

D-Ray

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by bhunter

IMHO the democrats did a wonderful job of painting the GOP as mysoginists.

I think the GOP did it to themselves. That is the price of pandering.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Big_Bill]

I am certainly not surprised in the responses that I have received by the "L" group here.

It shows what responsible people have always know, that some hold a double standard, one for their sons, and one for their daughters.
Birth control is always a women's responsibility, because some men can not be responsible enough to purchase a condom, a prophylactic device or rubber.
Everything is the responsibility of the woman, but have you ever viewed the counter indications of birth control pills ?

The pill is not recommended for women who have had blood clots, high blood pressure, certain types of cancers, heart attack, stroke, liver disease, gallbladder disease, undiagnosed uterine bleeding, cardiac problems, epilepsy, sickle cell disease, chronic renal disease, smokers, prior to elective surgery, suspected pregnancy, obese women, certain types of migraine headaches, or uncontrolled diabetes.

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Birthcontrol pills have many unfavorable, unhealthy and dangerous side affects, but men do not concern themselves with this, as they do not require men to experience them. They don't don't have bloating, cramps, mood swings, cramps in their legs, etc., etc., etc.

And Dave, you are an admitted abuser of women and irresponsibility, with your cavalier involvement with woman and sexuality.

D-Ray, If your no longer interested in the propagation of your genetic line, be responsible and park your car, then you will not need insurance, and beside you wouldn't want to have an accident, the world may not be ready for another D-Ray right now.

Unfortunately Liberals want everyone else to pay for their lack of control, and stupidity. Take hold of those balls that you have had so much fun with, give them a squeeze, and grow up, take responsibility for YOUR Actions.

Bill

[d-ray657]

There is a medication that, among other things, prevents an unwanted medical condition, pregnancy. Rather than have such medication included with a plethora of other medical conditions that are covered by medical plans, you would rather control the private behavior of others. Who's overreaching here?

Regards,

D-Ray

[Charles]

Originally Posted by bhunter

IMHO the democrats did a wonderful job of painting the GOP as mysoginists. Considering her testimony, complete with a selection of anectdotal and heart tugging testimony, her position is that having wanton sex causes undue financial hardship on the female students. The remedy is to have someone else pay to reduce that hardship, thus, paying for her behavior. She does not argue that the partners have any potential responsibility in the matter. BTW, we're talking only about $1000.00 per year.

Rush did go over the top IMHO, but I also don't think that someone else ought pay for someone elses willful choices. Come to think of it, I'd like $1000.00 for my allergy medications, that would nearly cover a nice amplifier.


Here's Rush's statement:

From what I'm reading, Fluke is a ringer that Pelosi brought in, and the whole thing is contrived.

And Rush was stupid enough to call her a whore instead of pointing out that she WAS a ringer.

This isn't so much about birth control, or insurance, as it is about politics. And Rush managed to blunder around and hand a win to the Donks.

Chas

[Charles]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

There is a medication that, among other things, prevents an unwanted medical condition, pregnancy. Rather than have such medication included with a plethora of other medical conditions that are covered by medical plans, you would rather control the private behavior of others. Who's overreaching here?

Regards,

D-Ray

I realize that your comments aren't directed at me, but I say give 'em the damn birth control pills. I doubt that they cost any more than the cheap generic Zyrtec I take every day.

The big difference is I'm not dropping pups all over the place. And if you're too poor, or stupid, or both to come up with the price of the pills, the last thing you need is a litter of pups that society will have to support.

Chas

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

There is a medication that, among other things, prevents an unwanted medical condition, pregnancy. Rather than have such medication included with a plethora of other medical conditions that are covered by medical plans, you would rather control the private behavior of others. Who's overreaching here?

Regards,

D-Ray

Overreaching ?

This is just another group of parasites that wants the Government to pay for everything that they possibly can convince the Government to pay for to buy their votes.

I'm surprised that you don't want the Government to perform intercourse for you.

Bill

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Charles

From what I'm reading, Fluke is a ringer that Pelosi brought in, and the whole thing is contrived.

And Rush was stupid enough to call her a whore instead of pointing out that she WAS a ringer.

This isn't so much about birth control, or insurance, as it is about politics. And Rush managed to blunder around and hand a win to the Donks.

Chas

... and that, gentlemen, sums it up.

You did fail to mention the awful optics of the GOP House Committee meeting to discuss women's health without any women present. That was the first big blunder is this whole episode.

I'm certainly receptive to the argument that Obama set the whole stage for the GOP overreaction to his contraceptive proposal.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Charles

I realize that your comments aren't directed at me, but I say give 'em the damn birth control pills. I doubt that they cost any more than the cheap generic Zyrtec I take every day.

The big difference is I'm not dropping pups all over the place. And if you're too poor, or stupid, or both to come up with the price of the pills, the last thing you need is a litter of pups that society will have to support.

Chas

And that is not a bad rationale for including contraceptives in universal health coverage. Even us stinking liberals can understand cost-effectiveness.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Charles]

Originally Posted by finnbow

... and that, gentlemen, sums it up.

You did fail to mention the awful optics of the GOP House Committee meeting to discuss women's health without any women present. That was the first big blunder is this whole episode.

I'm certainly receptive to the argument that Obama set the whole stage for the GOP overreaction to his contraceptive proposal.

That's because I'm paying very little attention to all of this, considering that we have bigger fish to fry.

As far as I'm concerned, the Republicans are reacting like Noon used to whenever TD used to say "Gotta go, O'Reilly's on!" And ol' Noon would ALWAYS come charging out, foaming at the mouth, and start a tirade about Faux News, stupid people who vote against their own best interests, etc.

It was so effective I started doing the same thing. However, Noon finally wised up. I'm afraid my boys and girls never will.

Chas