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01-01-2012, 04:37 PM
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Wow, placement changes are amazing. I've got them pretty close now I think. Must be cause I can't get Nipper out of the sweetspot long enough for me to get a good listen. She loves good female voice bluegrass. The overall impression I'm getting is, it's a horn, but doesn't really sound like a horn. Sounds sort of like the best paper top end I've heard, kinda, maybe, a little.  I have a CS5000 Dual with a stock arm and Denon DL103R LOMC running into some Auido Technica step ups that I really like. Then into Toxcrusaders pre that I'm going to miss when he picks it up tomorrow. The amp is my version of an ST35 running original Z565 outputs. Not a bad rig for spinning Buck Owens on.
Edit, if either of you guys run across an Ampex 402 like this one, I strongly recommend it after a nice overhaul with good components. Sucker's dead quiet and has a lovely tone to it. Nuttin fancy on the tubes, just good matched section RCA greys.
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01-01-2012, 05:18 PM
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Just played this here CeeDee and the imaging was spooky. These Edgars will image their asses off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhil5...6D003EA78DE0C9
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01-01-2012, 06:40 PM
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Hey, I'm glad to see you taking the time to play around with positioning and hearing the results of your efforts  It took me about a week of messing around with it off and on before I settled on where they sit now. They sound pretty good even when you don't have them dialed in so it's quite a shock to hear them once you do. They do image like crazy!
Here are a couple of pics of what I ended up doing for driver supports. Blocks of foam meticulously carved to conform to the driver radius with an electric knife
I will probably do something a little more aesthetically pleasing in wood at some point but I'm perfectly happy with this solution for now.
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01-01-2012, 07:17 PM
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You guys put me to shame. I'm currently refinishing a pair of Aztec Cezanne's. The cabinets are solidly built, but were terribly scratched. They sanded down nicely and are looking better after a couple of coats of tung oil. Unfortunately, I did a piss-poor job of trying to rebuild the corners with wood filler. I should have at least tried to darken the filler before applying the oil. Oh well, a learning experience. They are probably going to live in the garage anyway.
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01-01-2012, 07:27 PM
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Those look sweet, Jay!
I have one Roberts monoblock all sorted out and singing like a meadowlark. As soon as I ferret out the source of an intermittent noise in the other, I'll be building some horn based speaks. I have a set of Altec 808-8As laying around.....I think I'll start there.
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01-01-2012, 07:32 PM
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That's part of the fun, D-Ray. There are never a shortage of speakers to refinish and always something new to learn.
I wouldn't feel to bad about it. Getting filler material the correct color to blend in with the wood veneer is usually dang near impossible. Particularly with larger filled areas or corners and such.
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01-01-2012, 07:34 PM
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Hey Ron, those foam stands are light years past my bags o rice. The little woman is home now, so no tunes right now.
D-Ray, I did something even worse once. I filled the corners, sanded them square, re-veneered the speakers, then proceeded to over sand the corners into the filler. I was ticked off, but I went ahead and oiled them up anyhow. It actually ended up looking kind of cool to me, so you may like it too. F ups are the fun part of DIY.
Overposted ya Ron. Hey, what are you doing with those big 2 inch drivers you had?
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01-01-2012, 08:08 PM
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Quote:
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Overposted ya Ron. Hey, what are you doing with those big 2 inch drivers you had?
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I've got 2 pair actually. Both pair are just sitting on the shelf right now waiting for something or another. Maybe a pair of 500Hz Edgars when the time is right
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01-01-2012, 08:49 PM
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Those look sweet, Jay!
I have one Roberts monoblock all sorted out and singing like a meadowlark. As soon as I ferret out the source of an intermittent noise in the other, I'll be building some horn based speaks. I have a set of Altec 808-8As laying around.....I think I'll start there.
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Sounds like a darn good place to start. Those little Roberts amps are the bees knees for big speakers. Hopefully your room is bigger than mine, as the bass cabinet sizes are a booger sometimes.
Hey Ron, I'm thinking of dragging the scoops out. what the heck, the wife is already pissed. She came home, looked at the speakers everywhere and said "What is all this stuff"?
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01-02-2012, 12:04 AM
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Quote:
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Hey Ron, those foam stands are light years past my bags o rice. The little woman is home now, so no tunes right now.
D-Ray, I did something even worse once. I filled the corners, sanded them square, re-veneered the speakers, then proceeded to over sand the corners into the filler. I was ticked off, but I went ahead and oiled them up anyhow. It actually ended up looking kind of cool to me, so you may like it too. F ups are the fun part of DIY.
Overposted ya Ron. Hey, what are you doing with those big 2 inch drivers you had?
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Being a paper-pusher for a living, it's fun to do things like rehabbing speakers and slinging a little solder. The hard part is that it too often looks like a paper-pusher has been doing the refinishing or solder slinging.  But there is satisfaction in simple things - like a recapped pair of EPI 100 - pure beautiful simplicity.
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