How likely is it that the Republicans will win the next Presidential Election?

[piece-itpete]

I did say 'most'. Interesting word that

Repeat after me: President Bachmann. President Bachmann. Lol.

Pete

[painter]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I don't know what to tell you, Painter. And, I'd be willing to bet the "fixed income" most of those folks are on is, at least in part----Social Security. But, these same people are saying we need to balance the budget and stop "People who just sit around and get a check from the government from stealing anymore money from our grandchildren.

Dave

One more point. Many seasoned citizens volunteer in their communities.... meals on wheels, visit the infirmed in hospitals and nursing homes...etc. I know many who give back to their communities. Including myself.

The seasoned citizen of the 40's and 50's is NOT the one of this twenty-first century. Many take better care of themselves read more and enter this vast information highway to gain better access to the knowledge AND mental challenges to keep them viable individuals. Sans prescriptions...if at all possible.

So old gram/gramps on porchville in their rockers is basically slim to none.

Perhaps that IS the problem. We ARE living longer lives. BUT remember a persons worth is a matter of opinion.

You have it right son.

[djv8ga]

"There are now 3.2 million registered voters in arizona, with the majority of those Republicans followed by Independent voters and then Democrats.

The Arizona Secretary of state's office says about 2,000 people registered to vote since April and more than 71,000 signed up for permanent early-voting.

For the first time since August 2008 the number of registered Democrats has dropped under a million."

Read more: http://www.kfyi.com/cc-common/news/s...#ixzz1TBIkAQO6

I give the R's a solid 80% chance. A border state with our political background and demographics going this direction is pretty interesting.
Don't forget how large the city of Phoenix is.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by painter

One more point. Many seasoned citizens volunteer in their communities.... meals on wheels, visit the infirmed in hospitals and nursing homes...etc. I know many who give back to their communities. Including myself.

The seasoned citizen of the 40's and 50's is NOT the one of this twenty-first century. Many take better care of themselves read more and enter this vast information highway to gain better access to the knowledge AND mental challenges to keep them viable individuals. Sans prescriptions...if at all possible.

So old gram/gramps on porchville in their rockers is basically slim to none.

Perhaps that IS the problem. We ARE living longer lives. BUT remember a persons worth is a matter of opinion.

You have it right son.

Absolutely. This is why the belittlement of senior citizen benefits as "welfare" just drives me nuts. My Dad went to work at 14 and didn't retire until age 68. Volunteered to serve in WW2. Volunteered for Civil Defense in the 1950s. Worked hard all of his life and took excellent care of his large family. But, when he started receiving his SS check he became a "welfare deadbeat"? What?

Dave

[merrylander]

Sounds familiar, I went into the workforce in my teens and retired at 73. In that time period I naver asked fo any handouts from either government and paid my taxes on time. Sit on the porch in a rocker? I'd go nuts.

[painter]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Sounds familiar, I went into the workforce in my teens and retired at 7. In that time period I naver asked fo any handouts from either government and paid my taxes on time. Sit on the porch in a rocker? I'd go nuts.

You see merrylander...that handout statement...is demeaning to Americans who worked in the USA and had deductions from their pay stubs. That doesn't MAKE you a better person because you never asked for what you were eligible to get. It tells me you had enough money and didn't NEED any more.
We are paying into a system meant to be used.

I admire your posts very much...but this comparing USA to Canada gets a little long in tooth. There are differences. I have relatives born and raised in Canada. One is an author and journalist. We are both upset with politics in both our countries AND on much the same issues.

I hope you take this post as an explanation of my point. No insult intended.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Sounds familiar, I went into the workforce in my teens and retired at 7. In that time period I naver asked fo any handouts from either government and paid my taxes on time. Sit on the porch in a rocker? I'd go nuts.

Retired at 7? And Flac thought it was bad that people retire at 50............

Retiring before you started working, though....there's a time warp for Hawking to ponder.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Looks like we're comin' up with a fairly even spread.....maybe a touch heavy on the lose side, though.

Dave

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Looks like we're comin' up with a fairly even spread.....maybe a touch heavy on the lose side, though.

Dave

About 2-1 against the GOP winning. 8 think the GOP's chances are less that 50/50, 4 think that they are better than 50/50, and one calls it a toss-up. I wish the odds against the GOP prevailing were actually 2 to 1, but there's been too much Obama hatin' going on for re-election to ever be a lock, even if the GOP were stupid enough to nominate Bachman.

Regards,

D-Ray

[whell]

The tenor of many comments in this thread has me convinced that the left truly believes their own negative press, i.e. right from the first thread: "All the symptoms of a losing party are there. Negative campaigns. A divided and polarized base. Radical candidates." Sounds like CNN, MSNBC, DNC talking points.

The field of candidates on the Repub side is not even close to complete. The two candidates that would likely be most competitive - Perry and Christie - are going to wait until the 11th hour to file (if they're going to file). There may be other candidates that will jump in.