Takin' on water..

[whell]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Purely cost of labor, the crap about burdensome regulations is exactly that - crap.

Read this - it will link you to a WSJ article - and tell me if you still think that concerns about burdensome regulations are still overblown.

http://houstonnews.gulfcoastrising.c...le-revolution/

And this is just one slice of the pie of regulations that industry faces. I could write a treatise on the stupidity of some of the things that are regulated / enforced by the Dept of Labor, and how it impacts employers.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

Read this - it will link you to a WSJ article - and tell me if you still think that concerns about burdensome regulations are still overblown.

http://houstonnews.gulfcoastrising.c...le-revolution/

And this is just one slice of the pie of regulations that industry faces. I could write a treatise on the stupidity of some of the things that are regulated / enforced by the Dept of Labor, and how it impacts employers.

to bad we can't trust private industry to put society first, they should pay an extra tax to pay for all the regulations we have to impose to keep them from victimizing society.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

Read this - it will link you to a WSJ article - and tell me if you still think that concerns about burdensome regulations are still overblown.

http://houstonnews.gulfcoastrising.c...le-revolution/

And this is just one slice of the pie of regulations that industry faces. I could write a treatise on the stupidity of some of the things that are regulated / enforced by the Dept of Labor, and how it impacts employers.

For the sake of your three children I would avoid most plastic containers in fact Canada has banned plastic baby bottles because of the chemicals they release. As noone noted many regulations have come about simply because industry does not always do the necessary research into the long term effects of the chemicals they use.

Sure WallyWorld and others are have stuff made in Chiina because of cheap labor and little or no regulation. Well I sure would not use baby formula from China,, or any other foodstuff. If they are willing to poison their own children I do not imagine they care much about ours. The FDA budget has been cut so badly that another e-coli outbreak is due any day.

[whell]

Originally Posted by merrylander

For the sake of your three children I would avoid most plastic containers in fact Canada has banned plastic baby bottles because of the chemicals they release. As noone noted many regulations have come about simply because industry does not always do the necessary research into the long term effects of the chemicals they use.

Sure WallyWorld and others are have stuff made in Chiina because of cheap labor and little or no regulation. Well I sure would not use baby formula from China,, or any other foodstuff. If they are willing to poison their own children I do not imagine they care much about ours. The FDA budget has been cut so badly that another e-coli outbreak is due any day.

We use plastic containers regularly. We don't heat food in them, but there has yet to be a credible study that supports a "ban".

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by noonereal

to bad we can't trust private industry to put society first, they should pay an extra tax to pay for all the regulations we have to impose to keep them from victimizing society.

+1.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

For the sake of your three children I would avoid most plastic containers in fact Canada has banned plastic baby bottles because of the chemicals they release. As noone noted many regulations have come about simply because industry does not always do the necessary research into the long term effects of the chemicals they use.

Sure WallyWorld and others are have stuff made in Chiina because of cheap labor and little or no regulation. Well I sure would not use baby formula from China,, or any other foodstuff. If they are willing to poison their own children I do not imagine they care much about ours. The FDA budget has been cut so badly that another e-coli outbreak is due any day.

+1.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

We use plastic containers regularly. We don't heat food in them, but there has yet to be a credible study that supports a "ban".

For short term storage, use of plastic containers should be fine. But, you are correct to be concerned about heating food in them. Most plastic food containers are made of PET or HDPE, both of which have fairly low softening temps and can begin to out-gas (Release chemical gases.) at temps easily reached in a typical microwave oven. I've never seen a "study" confirming this, it is just my personal belief. I NEVER reheat in plastic. I always transfer to something made of metal, ceramic, glass, etc. prior to reheating. The Canadians are probably worried about chemicals being released from the plastic bottles as warmed milk is placed, or heated, in the baby bottles. I would think that as long as it is just "warm" as in say 100 degrees, and not much higher it should be okay, however.

I worked in plastics processing for 12 years, so I do know a little bit.

Dave

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

We use plastic containers regularly. We don't heat food in them, but there has yet to be a credible study that supports a "ban".

Try this;

http://www.google.com/search?q=bisph...&ved=0CIQBEKgC

[whell]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Try this;

http://www.google.com/search?q=bisph...&ved=0CIQBEKgC

Thanks - it supports my point:

http://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/89/8923cover2.html

"Last fall, FDA’s counterpart in Europe announced that it too had concerns about BPA safety. But in its review of some 800 research studies on BPA published since 2007, the European Food Safety Authority found no new evidence to justify lowering its tolerable daily intake value of 50 μg/kg/day, which is the same as the U.S. level.

The European Commission, which had charged the agency with evaluating BPA safety, subsequently invoked the precautionary principle and banned BPA in baby bottles. China recently did the same."

In other words, there's no "scientific consensus" (the low threshold that is currently being used to invoke all manner of mischief in the name of controlling "global warming"), but we're going to ban it anyway.

[piece-itpete]

Reading this thread from the start, I see the left is still making an all-out attempt at corning the market in civility in political discourse

You lefties know that a coupla countries have tried killing all the businessmen and installing heros of the working man in their stead.

It didn't work out how they expected.

Originally Posted by whell

Some on this forum do have some interesting misconceptions about how the world operates.

I know you were serious but it is ABSOLUTELY KILLING ME!

Originally Posted by hillbilly

....Honestly, I've often wondered how our childrens future will play out ... or possibly even our own future.

The government hates cash. They can't control it.

Perhaps the mark of the beast is actually a chip in your arm that functions as your bank account.

Pete