Check Out the Scumbag Dem's In WI

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Stereoholic

It's a "gift" to them because they supported Scotty during the election campaign.

Not working too well though. The police and firefighters are in solidarity with the rest of the unions in this protest. When Walker tried to send the troopers out to look for the senators, they couldn't be bothered with it.

To tell the truth, if it were left up to me, anyone who couldn't be "bothered" with doing their job wouldn't be "bothered" with having one the next day.

Chas

[merrylander]

When I was self employed I filed quarterly, real fun but the only reason they make the employer do it is they don't trust us. If nobody filed it would cause the IRS to go ape.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Stereoholic

It's a "gift" to them because they supported Scotty during the election campaign.

Not working too well though. The police and firefighters are in solidarity with the rest of the unions in this protest. When Walker tried to send the troopers out to look for the senators, they couldn't be bothered with it.

Good for them. If the Republicans in the state legislature want to cut costs, let them start by hacking their own lavish pay and benefits.

Dave

[Charles]

Originally Posted by merrylander

When I was self employed I filed quarterly, real fun but the only reason they make the employer do it is they don't trust us. If nobody filed it would cause the IRS to go ape.

Mandatory withholding didn't start until the 40's, about the same time governmental largesse began to spiral out of control.

Let all of the rubes who are grinning about all of the money the gubbmitt is giving them back start writing a check instead and see how quick they make the connection. As far as that goes, they can handle their own child support and garnishments as well.

They'll never grow up unless someone forces them to.

Chas

[Charles]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Good for them. If the Republicans in the state legislature want to cut costs, let them start by hacking their own lavish pay and benefits.

Dave

When I was looking at the link Finn left, I think they are...at least to a certain degree.

Chas

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Charles

Mandatory withholding didn't start until the 40's, about the same time governmental largesse began to spiral out of control.

Let all of the rubes who are grinning about all of the money the gubbmitt is giving them back start writing a check instead and see how quick they make the connection. As far as that goes, they can handle their own child support and garnishments as well.

They'll never grow up unless someone forces them to.

Chas

I read my pay stub every week, and do my own taxes at the end of every year, Chas. I am aware of the taxes I pay, and being single and living in a red state, I pay taxes and "fees" out my bloody arse. All of my property taxes and fees in this bullshit red state added up to a number so high only dogs can hear it. It's obscene. (But, our corporate rate is low, so businesses locate here. Guess who makes up for it?)

Anyhow. I know my employer does all of the witholding for me, I don't have to do it myself and I am grateful for that. It does save me the hassle. But I am not ignorant of what I am paying at all.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Charles

When I was looking at the link Finn left, I think they are...at least to a certain degree.

Chas

And a very tiny degree to be sure.

Dave

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

How so? The state government can change the law in accordance with the terms of the state constitution. That's what's happening here, if the Dems ever decide to show back up for work, that is. The machinery of government is working as designed.

It is also suggested that the union folks are not exactly acting in good faith either. Gov't contracts often prohibit strikes, and almost all prohibit work slow-downs or stoppages. I don't know if that's the case with Wisc contracts, but I'd be surprised if the contact failed to address stoppages/slow-downs. The union is apparently staging a sick out, which can be construed as a slow-down or stoppage.

http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/02/...v-union-rally/

The employer has rights too. PATCO comes to mind.

As the Wisconsin court determined, this is not a strike because the teachers are not demanding anything from the school district. The teachers are exercising their constitutional right to protest the actions, or proposed actions, of government.

Speaking of good faith, all of the unions said that they were willing to meet and confer with the administration over the changes to the benefits. Apparently, he found it inconvenient to allow working people to petition the government.

Also, while the Wisconsin legislature may be entitled to change it's own statutes, it cannot change the US Constitution. Maybe you didn't notice that the Unions' right to represent the various employees' includes the right to petition the government. By attempting to exclude almost all subjects of bargaining, the gov is interfering with that right. The action is also likely subject to an equal protection challenge, because the proposed legislation has no rational basis for distinguishing between the unions in the level of bargaining permitted. That is unless political retribution is considered a rational basis.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Stereoholic]

Wisconsin Law Enforcement Association Regrets Endorsing Walker:


http://www.channel3000.com/politics/...75/detail.html

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Stereoholic

Wisconsin Law Enforcement Association Regrets Endorsing Walker:


http://www.channel3000.com/politics/...75/detail.html

A little dissention within the ranks?

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...cc4c002e0.html

As far as I'm concerned, this is an issue for you Cheeseheads to settle, us Bugtussell folks have no say in the matter.

Chas