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View Poll Results: Worse President since the 60's
Kennedy 0 0%
Johnson 2 9.52%
Nixon 0 0%
Ford 0 0%
Carter 7 33.33%
Ray-Gun 1 4.76%
Bush I 0 0%
Clinton 1 4.76%
Bush Jr 9 42.86%
Obama 1 4.76%
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:52 AM
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Lay offa Shrub.

IMHO, he did the best he could with what he had.

Do any of you Monday Morning Quarterbacks think that you could have done any better?
Yes I really do. I believe you as well would have.

The only shortcoming I (and I am guessing You) would have is not be raised with all the contacts baby Bush was. As for actually governing, setting an agenda dealing with tough isues... I believe a great many Americans could have done much, much better.
Just my opinion but I absolutely believe it.

I got to run but I will finish this post latter.
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Old 09-05-2009, 08:41 AM
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I am torn. There's so many good choices to this answer.
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:13 AM
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had to give up toking. too many conservative right-wingers passing laws to legislate my morality.
Perhaps you should look into the USMJ Party. With medical cannabis studies going and even my state bringing about the debate, (though the current bobble heads in Des Moines are in the pockets of the Pharm Boys)(Easy Red, different type of Pharmers) that the issue will go nowhere fast.

They are a small but dedicated group, from right here in the heartland.

Just a thought
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:19 AM
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I was surprised Michigan passed the medical marry jane law with all the pharma stuff we have here. You may be pleasantly surprised too.
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:40 AM
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Say what you will about George W

The man was handed something no other pres ever had to deal with. There was no playbook to follow. 9/11 was our 25th wedding anniversary which makes it rough to feel happy on that day each year.

At least with Pearl Harbor FDR had a fixed enemy with battle lines drawn, and a nation of citizens that did more than watch war on TV.

Seen George the night he was elected, he stayed in the hotel I worked at in Orlando. Okay, here come the comments about the Supreme Clowns giving him the office. Well I can punch the chad allllll the way out, why can't you.

If you do a little research into the Supervisor of elections in that fine part of South Florida, you'll find she lost her job from bullsh*t, in subsequent elections. hhhmmmm.

Funny, the Dems didn't run the bus to the polls by my house that day, WTF. Oh, I was registered Republican at the time, guess they figured I could get to the polls on my own.

I don't condone some of the sh*t he and his buddies have pulled, but quit telling me about the war in Iraq, because your crys to go save Darfur are still ringing in my ears. I guess Saddam wasn't a big enough despot, and didn't kill enough of his own citizens to qualify for removal, the Kurds may disagree.

IMHO, a despot IS a WMD.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:50 AM
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The man was handed something no other pres ever had to deal with. There was no playbook to follow. 9/11 was our 25th wedding anniversary which makes it rough to feel happy on that day each year.
iraq was not responsible for 9-11 in case you haven't heard. saddam was a tyrant, but there are many of those. why aren't we toppling their regimes as well?

fact is, bush lied about weapons of mass destruction, and about iraq's connection to terrorism, and used 9-11 as an excuse to finish the job his father started. all about the oil my friend. all else is whitewash.

then he trampled on our civil liberties under the guise of national security, botched the war effort, tortured prisoners with complete disregard of the geneva convention, and added fuel to the fires of those who ARE actually responsible for 9-11. not to mention that he drove our economy into the ground.

oh yeah, there's no doubt in MY mind that he stole the election. for the love of america, his brother was the governer of the state that decided the election. HELLO......

and let us not forget the somewhat less than stellar handling of katrina...
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:27 AM
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iraq was not responsible for 9-11 in case you haven't heard. saddam was a tyrant, but there are many of those. why aren't we toppling their regimes as well?

fact is, bush lied about weapons of mass destruction, and about iraq's connection to terrorism, and used 9-11 as an excuse to finish the job his father started. all about the oil my friend. all else is whitewash.

then he trampled on our civil liberties under the guise of national security, botched the war effort, tortured prisoners with complete disregard of the geneva convention, and added fuel to the fires of those who ARE actually responsible for 9-11. not to mention that he drove our economy into the ground.

oh yeah, there's no doubt in MY mind that he stole the election. for the love of america, his brother was the governer of the state that decided the election. HELLO......

and let us not forget the somewhat less than stellar handling of katrina...
Well, I'm in agreement with you on one thing, it is about the oil.

If it wasn't for the oil, the Arabs would still be riding around on camels and shooting at one another with muzzle loading shotguns. They wouldn't have the time, money, or inclination to be over here causing trouble.

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Old 09-05-2009, 11:40 AM
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had to give up toking. too many conservative right-wingers passing laws to legislate my morality.

ain't gonna happen? i'm sure you're right, but i can dream.

blood running in the streets? WTF?
I've found the perfect candidate for you.

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I've found the perfect candidate for you.

Chas

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Old 09-05-2009, 12:06 PM
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I definitely slept better when Bush was running the show. I wonder how Obama would have handled 911? I guess he would have sat down and had a beer with the Taliban leaders. I'm still waiting for Bidens prophecy of the "test" to come around.
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