Reaching Out to the Right

[Noogies]

"Surgical meat costume" is about the weirdest thing I've heard today.

[GChief]

Haters gotta hate!!!

[piece-itpete]

Don how is it not an actual description?

I'm old enough to generally not play make-believe. Others may of course but making me pay for it, and far far worse encouraging cutting up children sounds like a pretty serious line for me. Apparently I'm not the only one.

There's also a current fad of pretending all cultures are equally good. I like diversity. Different points of view (and food ) can be stimulating and helpful. My mom died a foreigner. However I find encouraging kids to riot and or loot, or to shout jihad etc distasteful.

But of course I can be a sound bite - hater - right?

I missed a giant one. Equality of outcome. I heard an excellent leftie speaker (wish I could remember his name) talk about how the Republicans generally have a red line on its way to the tyranny of the right (racial superiority), while the Democrats do not have a red line on its way to the tyranny of the left.

He proposed equality of outcome as that line.

Noogies you're welcome

Pete

[GChief]

Good regurgitation of propaganda

[donquixote99]

Definately propaganda, Pete. Exaggerated half truths or less, cast for emotional effect. Cutting up children? Are you sure you couldn't work feeding-live-babies-into-the-meatgrinder into it?

Paranoid fantasies and lies about evil sex-changers are the stuff of moral panic, not reality. No one advocates cutting up children.

The thing to ask yourself what do you feel towards a person who genuinely rejects the gender assigned to them, and feels right with the other one. Any grams of compassion, or just disgust?

[piece-itpete]

I'm sad you all don't appreciate my heartfelt position.

They are very accurate descriptions, as I can see by a lack of rebuttal.

The sex change operations are cosmetic surgery. Cosmetic and Costume are closely related (same root word), and surgery is cutting by definition. Adults can do what they want (but why would I pay for it?). When it comes to minors, different story.

According to this study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11211955/ there were 500,000 +/- gender-appearance related surgeries on minors in 2019 (assuming I got my math right).

And forcing people to say they agree.... who is the tyrant?

I'm called the racist but it seems many only see black and white. I strive to treat everyone the same. Just because I disagree with someone doesn't make them evil. Just - at least when it comes to politics - wrong

I believe you: Don, and many others come from a place of genuine caring. Because I disagree on what actions to take or not to take regarding this or that issue, I am not given the same consideration.

Pete

[Oerets]

With so many other issues effecting the country at this current moment.
Gender is a impotent issue for many yet is it the hill to die on? Or is it being used to divide many?

First lets get the country going then worry about other issues...

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Oerets

With so many other issues effecting the country at this current moment.
Gender is a impotent issue for many yet is it the hill to die on? Or is it being used to divide many?

First lets get the country going then worry about other issues...

Good question.

The gay/lesbian people constitute less then 2% of the population, so they are an easy mark. Yet anyone who criticizes Israel will be branded an anti-Semite yet the Jews are only about 2.4% of the US population. Of course, the gay and lesbian folks do not have an organization like AIPAC to fight for their cause.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I'm sad you all don't appreciate my heartfelt position.

They are very accurate descriptions, as I can see by a lack of rebuttal.

The sex change operations are cosmetic surgery. Cosmetic and Costume are closely related (same root word), and surgery is cutting by definition. Adults can do what they want (but why would I pay for it?). When it comes to minors, different story.

According to this study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11211955/ there were 500,000 +/- gender-appearance related surgeries on minors in 2019 (assuming I got my math right).

And forcing people to say they agree.... who is the tyrant?

I'm called the racist but it seems many only see black and white. I strive to treat everyone the same. Just because I disagree with someone doesn't make them evil. Just - at least when it comes to politics - wrong

I believe you: Don, and many others come from a place of genuine caring. Because I disagree on what actions to take or not to take regarding this or that issue, I am not given the same consideration.

Pete

First, looking at your statistical source, your math is way wrong. They said they found a rate of 2.1 surgeries per 100,000 minors aged 15 to 17. The total number of children of that age in the study group was 3,835,726. Divide that total by 100,000 to get how many 100,000s are in that population. You get 38.35726. Now multiply by the rate per 100,000, which is 2.1. You get about 81 surgeries. 81, not 500,000. That's your crisis.

And if you want me to be sweetly considerate of your desire to throw callous cruel denegration at these 81 minors, well, you're going to have a long wait.

You've been had, man. They made a moral panic out of about nothing, and you signed on. There is no threat to the children here, there's just a tiny minority of special cases being used to whip people like you up.

[GChief]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

First, looking at your statistical source, your math is way wrong. They said they found a rate of 2.1 surgeries per 100,000 minors aged 15 to 17. The total number of children of that age in the study group was 3,835,726. Divide that total by 100,000 to get how many 100,000s are in that population. You get 38.5726. Now multiply by the rate per 100,000, which is 2.1. You get about 81 surgeries. 81, not 500,000. That's your crisis.

And if you want me to be sweetly considerate of your desire to throw callous cruel denegration at these 81 minors, well, you're going to have a long wait.

You've been had, man. They made a moral panic out of about nothing, and you signed on. There is no threat to the children here, there's just a tiny minority of special cases being used to whip people like you up.

We still need a like button.

I hear the same "made up/manipulated" talking points from the couple of die hard red hat dudes at work often. The rest of the red haters have shit canned their hats after the first 100 days. They are starting to open their eyes to what the majority of us here have been telling them all along.

I have been reaching out for a long time at this point. And being a strong purple hat wearer, I reach out to the extremes on both teams.