The Era of Trump?

[RickeyM]

"autopen" The new MAGA favorite word. Few know what it is or have even heard the word before now.

[4r54r5]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

"autopen" The new MAGA favorite word. Few know what it is or have even heard the word before now.

Then they're more stupid than I thought.
No MAGA has ever electronically signed a document such as a house repair quote, an insurance document? DUH

[Oasis]

Originally Posted by 4r54r5

Then they're more stupid than I thought.
No MAGA has ever electronically signed a document such as a house repair quote, an insurance document? DUH

It's usually an X using a sharpie.

[Oerets]

Simple searching on Wiki....



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen


""US Presidents""


""It has long been known that US Presidents use multiple autopen systems to sign many official documents (e.g., military, diplomatic, and judicial commissions; some Acts of Congress, executive directives, letters and other correspondence), due to the volume of such documents requiring their signature per the US Constitution. Some say Harry Truman was the first president to use the autopen as a way of responding to mail and signing checks.[12] Others credit Gerald Ford as the first president to openly acknowledge his use of the autopen,[13] but Lyndon Johnson allowed photographs of his autopen to be taken while he was in office, and in 1968 the National Enquirer ran them along with the front-page headline "The Robot That Sits In For The President.""


""In March 2025, President Trump declared that pardons for members of the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack issued during Biden's presidency are void due to them allegedly being signed by autopen. However, in 2024, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that pardons do not have to be in writing.""

[Dondilion]

What is the main difference between Trump and his antecedents?

He is more overt. That is he is more public.

[Rajoo]

Finally some real push back and this after Trump called for the impeachment of Judge James E. Boasberg for his order to halt deportations, which the Trump administration carried on anyway, even publicly defying the judge.

The chief justice of the United States on Tuesday rejected calls from President Donald Trump and his allies to impeach federal judges who have aggressively pushed back on the administration’s initiatives.

“For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision,” Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said in a rare statement. “The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.”

“Violence, intimidation, and defiance directed at judges because of their work undermine our Republic, and are wholly unacceptable,” Roberts wrote in his report.

Will Trump call for the impeachment of Chief Justice Roberts now? I am willing to bet on it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...3PB5EMB666HF4I

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

What is the main difference between Trump and his antecedents?

He is more overt. That is he is more public.

Overt corruption is indeed a very bad thing. Particularly if impunity from enforcement is demonstrated, it will help to spread the worst corruption everywhere, by example and sanction.

However, there are other differences that are very bad as well. I think the cruelty has to be a leading contender for worst difference, but the criminal attitude toward laws and norms is also very much in the running.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

What is the main difference between Trump and his antecedents?

He is more overt. That is he is more public.

His antecedents made a credible attempt to govern the country.
Trump on the other hand has been a mean spirited SOB who appoints cronies to his cabinet ensuring that the country cannot be governed while spending most of his time golfing and bloviating.

24% of his time so far has been spent golfing, is that overt and public?

Clinton cut the Federal workforce by 400,000 and he did not need a DOGE.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Overt corruption is indeed a very bad thing. Particularly if impunity from enforcement is demonstrated, it will help to spread the worst corruption everywhere, by example and sanction.

However, there are other differences that are very bad as well. I think the cruelty has to be a leading contender for worst difference, but the criminal attitude toward laws and norms is also very much in the running.

Well he is making it easier for dishonest and partisan historians to make a living. One could easily associate such as double tapping and deportation with Trump, but not so easy with any of his antecedents.
One is still waiting for an honest report an the invasion of Panama (1989).
Who is the most cruel US president in modern history?

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

What is the main difference between Trump and his antecedents?

tRump - siding with Putin.
Antecedents - not siding with Putin.