The beginning of the end

[electronjohn]

It's been a VERY long time since I've visited PC, and, after a brief perusal, it seems that intelligent, sane people are as outraged as I am over the coup going on. The question remains: What to do about it?

Protests and boycotts can be effective---to a point. But, more is needed. A truly organized opposition is likely to be the only solution. With the wholesale stripping of vital government agencies, it my well be time to establish an "alternative government"...a "government in exile" as it were.

There's thousands of people who were intimately involved in the day-to-day operation of our government...and their dismissals are going to hurt EVERYONE. Organized non-violent pressure...particularly directed at those who stood by and let this happen is one possible avenue. We are going to need those who've been ousted to put things back together. Again, organization is KEY.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by electronjohn

It's been a VERY long time since I've visited PC, and, after a brief perusal, it seems that intelligent, sane people are as outraged as I am over the coup going on. The question remains: What to do about it?

Protests and boycotts can be effective---to a point. But, more is needed. A truly organized opposition is likely to be the only solution. With the wholesale stripping of vital government agencies, it my well be time to establish an "alternative government"...a "government in exile" as it were.

There's thousands of people who were intimately involved in the day-to-day operation of our government...and their dismissals are going to hurt EVERYONE. Organized non-violent pressure...particularly directed at those who stood by and let this happen is one possible avenue. We are going to need those who've been ousted to put things back together. Again, organization is KEY.

What coup?

There was an election and the guy got the majority of the voters and the electoral college.

[electronjohn]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

What coup?

There was an election and the guy got the majority of the voters and the electoral college.

49.8% is not a majority. And, given the large number of non-voters, the actual margin is much smaller. How it happened is simple: Musk determined how much the presidency cost and paid the going rate. Not calling it a coup is merely splitting hairs.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by electronjohn

49.8% is not a majority. And, given the large number of non-voters, the actual margin is much smaller. How it happened is simple: Musk determined how much the presidency cost and paid the going rate. Not calling it a coup is merely splitting hairs.

He got more votes than Democrats and fulfilled the requirements of the electoral college. The election was officially ratified. Coup...what coup?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by electronjohn

It's been a VERY long time since I've visited PC, and, after a brief perusal, it seems that intelligent, sane people are as outraged as I am over the coup going on. The question remains: What to do about it?

Protests and boycotts can be effective---to a point. But, more is needed. A truly organized opposition is likely to be the only solution. With the wholesale stripping of vital government agencies, it my well be time to establish an "alternative government"...a "government in exile" as it were.

There's thousands of people who were intimately involved in the day-to-day operation of our government...and their dismissals are going to hurt EVERYONE. Organized non-violent pressure...particularly directed at those who stood by and let this happen is one possible avenue. We are going to need those who've been ousted to put things back together. Again, organization is KEY.

Welcome back, John.

[Noogies]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

What coup?

There was an election and the guy got the majority of the voters and the electoral college.

What I can't stop laughing about is the outraged constituents gathering to curse out their representatives at town halls in deep red states in districts that went 60% or more for Trump. He's doing exactly what you chuckleheads elected him to do. How stupid did you have to be to think none of it would affect you in your little white Christian Wonderbread bubble?

[Oerets]

Yes welcome.

The use of the term coup for what is now happening fits in many ways. Not in the classic use of violence by the military rather one of brute political force. Where they remold the country to their liking with little regard to other branches of government or laws and populace.


On what we can or need to be doing. Not much right now I feel. Until the Courts have a final say.

Seeing the reaction and results.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Yes welcome.

The use of the term coup for what is now happening fits in many ways. Not in the classic use of violence by the military rather one of brute political force. Where they remold the country to their liking with little regard to other branches of government or laws and populace.


On what we can or need to be doing. Not much right now I feel. Until the Courts have a final say.

Seeing the reaction and results.

It does not fit in any present way. The way it could fit if the power of the courts was removed. That has not happened.
If coup is used metaphorically, it is not correct.

[bobabode]

Keep those blinders screwed down tight, Dondi.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

He got more votes than Democrats and fulfilled the requirements of the electoral college. The election was officially ratified. Coup...what coup?

What DOGE is doing (at Social Security, IRS and Labor) is a coup to seize the IT infrastructure and data of the country and its citizens in service of a wet dream to destroy American democracy and replace it with a monarchy of sorts with a figurehead strongman like Trump as the head of state and a techbro as its CEO with the objective of replacing government as we know it with IT, the dollar with cybercurrency and the Fed with some sort of totally unregulated cyberbank. And they garner support for this plan among the hoi polloi by appealing to their ingrained racism, homophobia, ethnocentricity and general feelings of resentment. I know it sounds far-fetched, but this is indeed an accurate two-sentence description of their plan/fantasy.

Read a bit about J. D. Vance, Peter Thiel and their intellectual guiding lights, Curtis Yarvin and Patrick Deneen. Here's a good primer on their plans for this futuristic hellscape (though knowing your inclinations, you may consider it a utopia).

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ement-00177203

And it is indeed definitionally a coup if one sees it as a continuation of what was attempted on Jan. 6, this time by subterfuge instead of election fraud and violence. I would like to think you're intelligent enough to recognize this, but your blinders are strapped on pretty tight.