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01-02-2025, 07:45 AM
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Of course, it could all games for the suckers who need eternal conflict to feel satisfied with their miserable lot in life. The reich-wingnuttery infotaintment media complex has these frigging loons so wound up, they're liable to commit mass murder at any time. I'm hoping the "man" is paying attention and tracking these would be terrorists.
They found one kook in Virginia with a ton of pipe-bombs just the other day.
The FBI needs a much more robust level of funding/staffing to counter and track this homegrown Talibubba movement.
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Which is one reason why the tRumplican party wants do do away with the agency.
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01-02-2025, 09:09 AM
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This is looking very suspicious to me, Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer are going after Musk in no
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They are going after Trump. They want to keep Trump's feet to the fire. However the odds are against that.
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01-02-2025, 09:33 AM
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They are going after Trump.
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So they want Musk to be the de facto president?
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01-02-2025, 10:03 AM
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So they want Musk to be the de facto president?
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Loomer and Bannon are ideologues and they know that Trump is a shifty person. They are trying to keep Trump to their agenda by openingly attacking what they perceive as bad policy moves. Musk must be diminished to keep Trump on course.
The attack on Musk is not suspicious.
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01-02-2025, 10:07 AM
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Now here is another war in the works, Chief Justice Roberts vs MAGA and it seems this statement from JD Vance (whose wife clerked for Roberts) is what precipitated it.
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“Every Administration suffers defeats in the court system — sometimes in cases with major ramifications for executive or legislative power or other consequential topics,” Roberts wrote. “Nevertheless, for the past several decades, the decisions of the courts, popular or not, have been followed, and the Nation has avoided the standoffs that plagued the 1950s and 1960s. Within the past few years, however, elected officials from across the political spectrum have raised the specter of open disregard for federal court rulings. These dangerous suggestions, however sporadic, must be soundly rejected.”
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And from Vance:
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“If I was giving him [Trump] one piece of advice, fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state,” Vance said on a 2021 podcast. “Replace them with our people. And when the courts — because you will get taken to court — and when the courts stop you, stand before the country like Andrew Jackson did and say: ‘The chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.’”
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So some states will abide by the SCOTUS ruling while others may not? Is this why getting rid of the FBI is paramount because without them, there is no Federal police force. I expect that the Scotus will be handing out weak decisions in the Trump era just so they are not upstaged and ultimately who cares since they too have very little credibility anymore.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-constitution/
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01-02-2025, 11:03 AM
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Loomer and Bannon and are ideologues and they know that Trump is a shifty person. They are trying to keep Trump to their agenda by openingly attacking what they perceive as bad policy moves. Musk must be diminished to keep Trump on course.
The attack on Musk is not suspicious.
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But does trump need Loomer and Bannon anymore? The election's over.
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01-02-2025, 11:10 AM
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The wild cards to consider whenever discussing Trump's future agenda or agendas.
Being that he does not have the worries of running for office again added to the already fear of obeying any laws are removed.
He is also removing any who will tell him no from having any say or sway. We are in for a
wild ride for sure.
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01-02-2025, 11:35 AM
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The wild cards to consider whenever discussing Trump's future agenda or agendas.
Being that he does not have the worries of running for office again added to the already fear of obeying any laws are removed.
He is also removing any who will tell him no from having any say or sway. We are in for a
wild ride for sure.
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You are absolutely correct Barney and I failed to see this.
Trump now has what he wanted all along, stay out of jail, suspend all prosecutions and now he can go back to doing what he does best, grifting and the entire US Treasury is at his disposal. He is already doing this in the background ever since he won the election with Melania as an equal participant.
I expect him to spend the next four years traveling between Bedminister and MAL with occasional stops in the WH for photo ops (marketing). And since he revels in chaos, more the better, nothing gets done and no one will blame him for not doing anything either.
But, Elon Musk will be in charge one way or the other. So Bannon is toast and so are most if not all of his bootlickers and no wonder he is siding with Elon at every turn.
The mandate that he is bragging about is all about a little fat middle finger hoisted at America.
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01-02-2025, 01:15 PM
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But, Elon Musk will be in charge one way or the other. So Bannon is toast and so are most if not all of his bootlickers and no wonder he is siding with Elon at every turn.
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Basically you are right. However, it is not just Musk; it is the emergence of a powerful oligarchy. Check Bezos adjustments at the Washington Post and the ability of other oligarchs to control information and deplatform people.
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01-02-2025, 02:07 PM
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Basically you are right. However, it is not just Musk; it is the emergence of a powerful oligarchy. Check Bezos adjustments at the Washington Post and the ability of other oligarchs to control information and deplatform people.
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It is all Musk since all other Tech bros will line up behind him and you know why? He can whisper into Trump's ears whatever he wants, so best not to rile him up. Watch Musk kill the GM Bolt (a poor man's EV) with all incentives stopped, it will be part of their killing the Green Energy initiative enacted by Biden. Drill Baby Drill and hybrids are in our future.
So it will be President Musk for the next four years, the VP slot though assigned is still open. If Johnson regains speakership, it will be a Musk-Johnson team governing us.
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