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Old 12-26-2024, 11:05 AM
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The 81 year old congress woman tries very hard to link Musk to the Chinese Communist Party.
He is linked. She's just pointing it out.
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Old 12-26-2024, 12:23 PM
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The 81 year old congress woman tries very hard to link Musk to the Chinese Communist Party.
The age reference is pure ad-hom argument.

Is there anything untrue in what she said?
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Old 12-26-2024, 02:29 PM
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The age reference is pure ad-hom argument.

Is there anything untrue in what she said?

The age points to a gerontocracy.

Trump, Biden, McConnell, Grassley and recently Feinstein.
Biden did not want to go. He had to be pushed.

The lady engaged in wholesale pandering...over the top!

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Old 12-26-2024, 03:15 PM
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The age points to a gerontocracy.

Trump, Biden, McConnell, Grassley and recently Feinstein.
Biden did not want to go. He had to be pushed.

The lady engaged in wholesale pandering...over the top!
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The age reference is pure ad-hom argument.

Is there anything untrue in what she said?
Bold emphasis added by me.
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Old 12-26-2024, 03:48 PM
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Mr. Musk’s fortune is tied to Tesla’s Shanghai factory.

The Shanghai factory has replaced Tesla’s plant in Fremont, Calif., as its largest and most productive, accounting for over half of the company’s global deliveries and the bulk of its profits.

As the plant took shape in just under a year, Mr. Musk worked closely with a city official who is now China’s premier, Li Qiang. Under Mr. Li’s watch, state-run banks offered Tesla low-interest loans, a deal so generous that a senior auto official recalled a minister balking at it.

China also changed ownership rules so that Tesla could set up without a local partner, a first for a foreign auto company in China.

Mr. Musk saves on production and labor costs in Shanghai and cannot easily extricate himself, should he ever want to. Because the billionaire's wealth is tied up in Tesla stock, his personal fortune now hinges on what happens in China.
The real reason for this sweetheart funding is that China badly wanted/needed EV technology and now they are running with it. IIRC, Warren Buffet was/is a major investor in BYD, the leading Chinese EV maker.

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Mr. Musk’s reliance on the Shanghai factory may give Beijing leverage over him.

That’s a concern because a second company of Mr. Musk’s, SpaceX, has sensitive Pentagon contracts and controls much of the world’s satellite internet through its Starlink network.

Mr. Musk has said that his companies should not be conflated. But he has also praised Chinese leaders and taken China’s side in geopolitical disputes, even as he rails against politicians in the United States.

In an online conversation with two members of Congress in July, he called himself “kind of pro-China.
There it is in his own words, President Musk is pro-China while his sidekick Trump postures being anti-China, which no one believes. His love letters to Lil Kim may be a back channel into Xi's ears.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/w...explained.html
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Old 12-26-2024, 04:25 PM
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Trump POWERLESS as His Base GOES TO WAR with ITSELF
https://youtu.be/CBhIwZ48yxY?si=wWD1YOJncF9J4NxZ
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Old 12-26-2024, 06:28 PM
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Trump POWERLESS as His Base GOES TO WAR with ITSELF
https://youtu.be/CBhIwZ48yxY?si=wWD1YOJncF9J4NxZ


Complete with elephants.
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Old 12-26-2024, 06:56 PM
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Trump POWERLESS as His Base GOES TO WAR with ITSELF
https://youtu.be/CBhIwZ48yxY?si=wWD1YOJncF9J4NxZ
Is it too soon for the I-told-you-so's?



FWIW I'm not cheering for America to fail it's just that the tRump circus, with tRump as the ringmaster, it's inevitable.
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Old 12-26-2024, 07:42 PM
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These MAGA farmers could be ruined if Trump follows through with mass deportations
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/1...rkers-00195839

Every time we make the very boring drive down I-5 through the Big Valley, we see MAGA signs all along the way. These asshats will soon be getting exactly what they voted for.
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Old 12-27-2024, 09:08 AM
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Biden should give a farewell speech borrowing a line from Nixon's farewell speech, "you don't have Biden to kick around any more, because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference." Then add the following to his speech.

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Trump based his 2024 campaign on an seductive promise: He’ll bring prices down. Alas, it is virtually impossible to reduce prices; the overall level of prices almost never falls unless an economy is really sick (as it was during the Great Depression, the last time we saw widespread deflation). The best that economists generally hope for is for growth in prices to slow and for prices themselves to more or less plateau. This is already happening for some consumer products, such as groceries.

However, none of this is intuitive to non-economists. And Trump has taken advantage.

Only after winning last month did Trump fess up, belatedly acknowledging he can’t bring prices down. “I’d like to bring them down,” he told Time magazine. “It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up. You know, it’s very hard.”

Got that? There was no plan, there is no plan, and there was never going to be any plan to reduce prices. The only thing surprising about this admission is that he said it out loud.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...sen-inflation/
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