Any Opinions on Penny/Nearly Verdict?

[Watcher]

I have only heard of this case here, and from what I have read, wouldn´t one notice if you have a guy in a choke hold that he´s going limp? Then you loosen your hold a bit, but are ready to clamp down again, if necessary.

The situation seems similar to some armed citizens just waiting for the chance to blow some guy away who is trying to rob a place. I´m not saying that it´s not ok to try and stop some guy robbing a place, but I think some are just waiting for the chance to legally kill someone.

I´m glad that society here in Germany generally isn´t so aggressive/dangerous/armed to the teeth. Sure, violent crimes happen here, too, but on a much smaller scale.

[donquixote99]

Yep, if you off colored people or lefties, you're their boy.

[Oasis]

Originally Posted by Watcher

I have only heard of this case here, and from what I have read, wouldn´t one notice if you have a guy in a choke hold that he´s going limp? Then you loosen your hold a bit, but are ready to clamp down again, if necessary.

The situation seems similar to some armed citizens just waiting for the chance to blow some guy away who is trying to rob a place. I´m not saying that it´s not ok to try and stop some guy robbing a place, but I think some are just waiting for the chance to legally kill someone.

I´m glad that society here in Germany generally isn´t so aggressive/dangerous/armed to the teeth. Sure, violent crimes happen here, too, but on a much smaller scale.

They are usually just after your TV ect' Here It's about appropriated force, down here that guy would have gone to jail for a long time. Not somewhere I'd live, or even visit. A while ago an innocent Australian woman was shot and killed by a Police officer over there because she approached a police car in her nighty after calling them to report a disturbance.

[init4fun]

Maybe if a former Marine was on THIS train the woman might still be alive?


https://www.yahoo.com/news/female-pa...190713491.html

40 years later, maybe we need to deputize someone like Bernie Goetz to clean up the NY subway once and for all..... (Sarcastic, I know, but tough shit, some assholes just NEED to be removed from society. Were I a juror, I wouldn't have convicted Penny or Goetz either....)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_N...ubway_shooting

[donquixote99]

Foo. You can prove anything with what-if speculations. It's called making-up evidence.

[init4fun]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Foo. You can prove anything with what-if speculations. It's called making-up evidence.

The lady is dead, and the guy who burned her to death got arrested.

Nothing made up there

Or perhaps she simply spontaneously combusted

I'd have no problem seeing the death penalty applied to the killer here.

maybe even in a big ol BONFIRE

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by init4fun

Maybe if a former Marine was on THIS train the woman might still be alive?

40 years later, maybe we need to deputize someone like Bernie Goetz to clean up the NY subway once and for all..... (Sarcastic, I know, but tough shit, some assholes just NEED to be removed from society. Were I a juror, I wouldn't have convicted Penny

The made-up part, of course, is the first sentence.

I get that you and many people have this death-wish triggered by outrageous crime stories. I think it's instinctive, and I think there are often bad outcomes to indulging these feelings. Basically, I don't want the state having power to kill because people like you want it too much.

[init4fun]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

The made-up part, of course, is the first sentence.

I get that you and many people have this death-wish triggered by outrageous crime stories. I think it's instinctive, and I think there are often bad outcomes to indulging these feelings. Basically, I don't want the state having power to kill because people like you want it too much.

Prove the guy 100% guilty, no shadow of a doubt or "circumstantial" evidence, directly and unmistakenly guilty, and yeah, then I'll have no problem with the State frying his ass.

Anything less than 100% airtight evidence, then yeah, no firing squad.

It does appear that in this case, there is enough video evidence supporting a guilty conviction.......

[init4fun]

Kinda like the assholes who go into a McDonald's or a school with an AK-47 and mow down dozens of people, simply prove ya got the right perp, NO MISTAKES, 100% proven to be the person who did it, and yeah, I'm perfectly comfortable with the ultimate punishment being administered.

And no Don, I'm not "MAGA", or even slightly Republican for that matter, as I'm sure your just itchin to peg me for, just someone who believes Hammurabi got it right back in 1750 BC

Got any more to say about "People like me" , , , , , Don?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi


"The Code of Hammurabi was a set of 282 laws written by the Babylonian king Hammurabi around 1750 BCE. It was one of the earliest and most complete written legal codes in history. The code covered a wide range of topics, including:
Criminal law: The code included severe punishments, sometimes even death, for criminals.
Family law: The code granted women rights, such as the ability to inherit property.
Economic law: The code established standards for commercial interactions.
Labor law: The code outlined minimum wages for different jobs, such as artisans, laborers, and sailors.
Building code: The code outlined liability if a building collapsed.
Medical law: The code included provisions for injuries sustained during medical operations."

[Oasis]

I'm against the death penalty, if it leads even one person to their death who is not guilty It's a crime no less heinous than that they are accused of.