Faith and Reason

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

By that logic, if it's not in me, I'm not a natural born human. And since it's not physical, and undetectable, I'd better act like it's in me. Otherwise I could be a bind like the Monty Python witch test presented, one of these days....

This made me think of "Unhumans," a far-right propaganda book. Here's a little excerpt from one disapproving reaction:



The book says Democrats are communists, and communists are unhumans. Bannon wrote the foreword for this thing; Vance contributed a cover blurb. Sounds like the paranoids are after us.

(So, having made a religion thread, back we go to politics. May be hard to keep them apart going forward....)


Note: I edited this message. Initially it said Unhumans was "planned for release before the election, then delayed at the last minute when it attracted too much negative attention." That's not true, I was thinking of another book, "Dawn's Early Light: Taking Back Washington to Save America." Written by Roberts of the Heritage Foundation; Vance did the foreward for this one.

Great. I tried to save your soul, because I like you.

Now you're going convert me into being a follower of Vance and Bannon.

Do you have any evidence that you are not possessed by the devil ?

Do you know the air speed of a laden swallow ?

[donquixote99]

No evidence here. But neither do you have any similar evidence in your own case Proving a negative is known to be a bitch.

There's nothing like facing contradiction to make one harden one's attitudes. And the hard logic of ideology has this power of compulsion.I like you too, and thanks for that, but will it keep you from letting me drown if I don't float, or burning me if I do?

[donquixote99]

Regarding the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, have you researched them any further since we discussed? I believe I'm going to order the book below, I've always loved the work of comic artist Will Eisner, and it will be interesting to see how he handles the tale.

https://www.librarything.com/work/220843

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

No evidence here. But neither do you have any similar evidence in your own case Proving a negative is known to be a bitch.

There's nothing like facing contradiction to make one harden one's attitudes. And the hard logic of ideology has this power of compulsion.I like you too, and thanks for that, but will it keep you from letting me drown if I don't float, or burning me if I do?

It's called a 'hardening of the heart', the spiritual heart, which is in your belly. It will kick like a baby.

I'll let you drown. I won't be the one who burns you.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Regarding the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, have you researched them any further since we discussed? I believe I'm going to order the book below, I've always loved the work of comic artist Will Eisner, and it will be interesting to see how he handles the tale.

https://www.librarything.com/work/220843

Okay.

I have the Book of Genesis illustrated by R. Crumb. Very tawdry, I'd recommend that as well.

I don't know who 'forged' the PEZ. It's like Christ Jesus's 40 days in the desert, nobody was there except Jesus and the devil. Jesus didn't dictate it, so that chapter of the Bible was written by Satan (?) I don't claim to know.

I know Satan is real, proven to me be empirical observation. Or hallucinations as Chicks stated.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

It's called a 'hardening of the heart', the spiritual heart, which is in your belly. It will kick like a baby.

I'll let you drown. I won't be the one who burns you.

If you feel it kick, don't run to the doctor.

They'll prescribed an anti-psychotic med that will make teeth fall out.

edit- by that reasoning there will be no teeth to gnash in Hell. blah, blah, blah Happy Holidays

[donquixote99]

It occurs to me that our eternal life may be analogous to our 'digital footprint' as it exists in multiple copies all over. There's just no way all the copies ever get deleted.

I'm currently trying to cope with the effects of my C: drive going south, so this sort of thing is on my mind....

[BigElCat]

Welcome to the Matrix. I'm going Linux in 2025.

Maybe there'll be a C drive; but by God I'm not backing up in the techno cloud.

Leary=idiot Snowden=idiot Chicks

Cap't Colonel come out to play

[Oasis]

A more informative book
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Delusion

[Oasis]

The whole "Prove there is no god" is a silly argument, I can't prove there isn't a teapot orbiting Saturn, all I can do is look for evidence for there being a teapot orbiting Saturn, which there is not.