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Old 11-06-2024, 07:38 PM
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Old 11-06-2024, 07:46 PM
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Seems apropo here...

“As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a down right fool and complete narcissistic moron.”

-H.L. Mencken, July 26, 1920 Baltimore Evening Sun
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Old 11-07-2024, 07:51 AM
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Seems apropo here...

“As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a down right fool and complete narcissistic moron.”

-H.L. Mencken, July 26, 1920 Baltimore Evening Sun
What's ironic about this is that Mencken himself was revealed (25 years after his death) to have been a virulent racist, anti-Semite and pro-Nazi.

That said, he had a terrific way with words. A few other relevant quips:

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

Under democracy one party always devotes its energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule—and both commonly succeed and are right.

No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people.
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Old 11-07-2024, 09:13 AM
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Actually, they did vote. Some of them just didn't vote the way the pollsters assumed that they would.

Democrats just didn't get how they screwed up their chances in this election. Some of them may be starting to get it, but how much of this is lip service or sour grapes only time will tell.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...oss-rcna178967

Democrats said of their own party as "... drifted far from its onetime identity as the protectors of those left behind, to represent the party elites.

Some spoke of revamping the party’s outlook on immigration, calling for stricter enforcement on the border. They saw the rising support for Trump in metro areas as a backlash from early policies during President Joe Biden’s administration that enabled migrants to flood into blue states, where they were often housed and financially supported even as working-class residents struggled to receive services.

Sen. Bernie Sanders: "It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them," he said Wednesday. "First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right."

Some of what went wrong can be traced to the dismantling of the coalition that ushered Biden into office in 2020, said a person close to Biden. The president claimed victory over Trump after beating out an expansive primary field that had moved too far to the left. But once Biden moved into the Oval Office, top aides pushed him toward policies that drifted from that moderate persona, like issuing wide-scale student debt relief, loosening restrictions at the border and pulling the permit to the Keystone Pipeline.

At least one Dem appears to have figured it out: “This is a realignment. Our country has moved to the right. It’s not center left. Our party needs to grapple with it and find its footing in that world,” said Rep. Nikki Budzinski, an Illinois Democrat who won by double digits in a purple district after campaigning heavily on the economy.

Instead, this current crop of Democrats thought it best to gaslight the American electorate. Inflation was "temporary" we were told. The economy is booming, we were told. When some people observed that Americans had gone from the FBI released their "revised" report that showed what Americans had known all along, despite David Muir's apparent lack of curiosity about how the FBI report could have missed the obvious the first time.

“I have checked the data on total violent crime from 2004 to 2022,” Carl Moody, professor at the College of William & Mary who specializes in crime, told RCI. “There were no revisions from 2004 to 2015, and from 2016 to 2020, there were small changes of less than one percentage point. The huge changes in 2021 and 2022, especially without an explanation, make it difficult to trust the FBI data.”

Long story short, beleive what you want. You can beleive that Democrat voters stayed home if you want. Fact is that Harris's 2024 popular vote totals are cosistent with the Democrat popular vote totals in 2008, 2012 and 2016. So, lie to yourself at your own peril.

I've voted for Democratic presidential candidates in the past. I haven't voted for a Democrat in while now. The party of JFK or even Jimmy Carter would find little to like about today's Democrats, particulary the leadership. Today's Democrats have left me behind and moved way to the left.

I hope they figure this out. We need politicians - Democrats and Republicans - who are in touch with the voters and are not hostile to them like today's ilk is.
Interesting!

Feedback from voters indicated that the economy was a major issue. Modern economic evaluation is now besieged by manipulators. Thus there were 818,000 bogus jobs in one instance; jobs numbers being revised downwards significantly most of the time.
The Fed Chairman often said he is data dependent; but what if the data is not good?

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Old 11-07-2024, 02:47 PM
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Just shows how devoid voters are when it comes to having any ability to reason effectively.

I'm sorry to have to watch America and the world suffer under Dictator Trump.
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Old 11-07-2024, 03:10 PM
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Why was Trump so invisible to the pollsters?
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Old 11-07-2024, 07:17 PM
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Why was Trump so invisible to the pollsters?
A Romulan cloaking device?
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Old 11-07-2024, 07:35 PM
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A Romulan cloaking device?
The Prince of the Power of the Air.

Ever read CS Lewis ? They're Zombies, and here comes the apocalypse.
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Old 11-08-2024, 12:34 AM
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Probably got the device from Elon. Wow, wow...5 million more than Kamala and the pollsters clueless. WTF.
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Old 11-08-2024, 10:51 AM
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I certainly agree that conventional polling appears to be broken. Probably, however, a few AI-generated algorithms should have everything sorted out by the time the next election cycle gets under way -- which should be some time around noon next Thursday.
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