Woke... What does it mean?

[Pio1980]

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[Oerets]

In a perfect world where equal opportunity and education for everyone from birth were the norm. Then DEI would be a non issue. Yet in the world we live in that is not the case.

This one have a over abundance of those who feel superior and entitled to, or envy of. Creating many of the issues DEI try to solve.

[Enophile]

Originally Posted by finnbow

"Woke" has morphed from being a phrase used in the black community to mean socially aware to now being a catch-all phrase used by the right to describe anything they don't like or understand.

That's the whole ball of wax, right there.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Enophile

That's the whole ball of wax, right there.

Actually, no. That is Finnbow's interpretation of what people mean when they use the word.

First of all, due to the nature of the word, it can mean different things to different people. Even different conservatives. But it is rarely about things they "don't understand". Being a conservative, I hang around a lot of conservatives (on conservative forums"), and his description certainly does not reflect their usage of the word.

I've noticed that one thing that Rush Limbaugh was spot on in saying: "Words have meaning." And it is pretty obvious that the right is far more aware of the significance of that phrase than the left is. It's why phrases that are started with the left often get hijacked by the right. Like "woke" and "fake news". It's because for them to stick in their usage, they have to have a solid meaning. And in the case of "woke", the right usually uses the word sarcastically. i.e. those that consider themselves "woke" are usually anything but.

[GChief]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Actually, no. That is Finnbow's interpretation of what people mean when they use the word.

First of all, due to the nature of the word, it can mean different things to different people. Even different conservatives. But it is rarely about things they "don't understand". Being a conservative, I hang around a lot of conservatives (on conservative forums"), and his description certainly does not reflect their usage of the word.

I've noticed that one thing that Rush Limbaugh was spot on in saying: "Words have meaning." And it is pretty obvious that the right is far more aware of the significance of that phrase than the left is. It's why phrases that are started with the left often get hijacked by the right. Like "woke" and "fake news". It's because for them to stick in their usage, they have to have a solid meaning. And in the case of "woke", the right usually uses the word sarcastically. i.e. those that consider themselves "woke" are usually anything but.

Wrong on every level.

Since I can't do a laughing emoji with a "like" button.

Here ya go lol

Oh and for the fake news part, happens everytime the Repub presidental ticket is moving thier lips.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by GChief

Wrong on every level.

Since I can't do a laughing emoji with a "like" button.

Here ya go lol

Oh and for the fake news part, happens everytime the Repub presidental ticket is moving thier lips.

Clearly opinions vary. Thanks so much for sharing yours, Though a little evidence to back it up would have helped.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

And in the case of "woke", the right usually uses the word sarcastically. i.e. those that consider themselves "woke" are usually anything but.

So what is "woke", especially if words have meaning even if it's used sarcastically as you claim? And while you are mulling the answer over, what are "alternative facts".

"Woke" as I understand it is being well informed and "alternative facts" are lies.
So by my reasoning, people who are not "woke' believe the lies that are dished out, like 70% of Repugnants (not being woke) believing that Trump won in 2020 (alternate facts).

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

So what is "woke", especially if words have meaning even if it's used sarcastically as you claim? And while you are mulling the answer over, what are "alternative facts".

"Woke" as I understand it is being well informed and "alternative facts" are lies.
So by my reasoning, people who are not "woke' believe the lies that are dished out, like 70% of Repugnants (not being woke) believing that Trump won in 2020 (alternate facts).

Woke is a slang word and means different things to different people, kinda like the N word. That being said, in my circles it is mostly used as a sarcastic put down of opinions, usually from the left, backed by gross ignorance.

A somewhat antiquated example: A "woke" person may hate cops because they are so quick to shoot black men. That is an opinion based on gross ignorance and denial of the actual stats on police shootings as they relate to race.

A more recent example: A woke person believes that George Floyd was killed by a cop putting his knee on his neck. But he died of a fentanyl overdose. But to be clear. A person that "casually" believes a cop killed him is not woke. Rather, the person who vehemently believes it and may even join protests or riots about it is the one that is woke.

[Enophile]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Actually, no. That is Finnbow's interpretation of what people mean when they use the word.

First of all, due to the nature of the word, it can mean different things to different people. Even different conservatives. But it is rarely about things they "don't understand". Being a conservative, I hang around a lot of conservatives (on conservative forums"), and his description certainly does not reflect their usage of the word.

I've noticed that one thing that Rush Limbaugh was spot on in saying: "Words have meaning." And it is pretty obvious that the right is far more aware of the significance of that phrase than the left is. It's why phrases that are started with the left often get hijacked by the right. Like "woke" and "fake news". It's because for them to stick in their usage, they have to have a solid meaning. And in the case of "woke", the right usually uses the word sarcastically. i.e. those that consider themselves "woke" are usually anything but.

Thank you for being here.

Other than conservatives using the word as a pejorative, I am yet to see any reasonable explanation of what "woke" and "anti-woke" mean to them.

Anti-woke seems to include anti-choice, anti-LGBT, anti-diversity, addressing the death by gun epidemic, etc...so, they are basically saying they oppose civil rights for anything other than stereotypical white Christian hetero-normative positions.

The anti-woke seem fine supporting felons, adjudicated rapists who make flamingly wrong statements about Haitians eating cats, insane Mexican convicts taking our jobs, "stolen" elections, pedophilic pizza parlors, etc.

They seem "woke" to batshit crazy and criminal issues, but not choice or diversity?

[GChief]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Clearly opinions vary. Thanks so much for sharing yours, Though a little evidence to back it up would have helped.

Just because a bunch of gullible morons culturally appropriated a word does not change the actual meaning.