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Old 08-21-2024, 06:00 PM
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Odd that their base doesn't care.
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Old 08-21-2024, 08:04 PM
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RFK Jr. is planning to drop out of the 2024 presidential race and endorse Trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ump-rcna167606

RFK Jr. is a lunatic. Donny is nuts enough to put him in a cabinet-level position if he wins the Oval. He won't win, of course.
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Old 08-22-2024, 08:16 AM
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RFK Jr. is planning to drop out of the 2024 presidential race and endorse Trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ump-rcna167606

RFK Jr. is a lunatic. Donny is nuts enough to put him in a cabinet-level position if he wins the Oval. He won't win, of course.
Say what you will, the convicted felon knows how to silence his critics. He gives them jobs.
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Old 08-22-2024, 08:19 AM
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Odd that their base doesn't care.
I remember seeing his minions approving of the Affordable Care Act when told of it's benefits but as soon as they were told it was also known as Obamacare they recoiled like a vampire faced with a bunch of garlic.
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Old 08-22-2024, 08:42 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with you, man? "Laying in the grave with McCain."?

We Democrats had very little in common politically with Senator John McCain of Arizona but we respected his service and his great sacrifice in the Hanoi Hilton.

The man is a national hero, you are a scumbucket HR flack not fit to shine his shoes.
You sound surprised.
I just realized an interesting parallel here and with the current Republican party. The Republican party leadership has been so corrupted and it's voters so radicalized that honest conversations and discourse are a thing of the past. The party needs to be replaced with a new conservative party. There is no hope to save the party as it now stands. All their standard bearer has to offer are lies and silly personal insults and yet they are his ride-or-die partners.
We also could use some new rational moderate conservative voices around here. Currently there is no honest conversation and discourse being offered. Maybe that's what's keeping more moderate Republican voices away?
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Old 08-22-2024, 09:02 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with you, man? "Laying in the grave with McCain."?

We Democrats had very little in common politically with Senator John McCain of Arizona but we respected his service and his great sacrifice in the Hanoi Hilton.

The man is a national hero, you are a scumbucket HR flack not fit to shine his shoes.
What are you babbling about now? When exactly did I bash McCain's service?

Dang, Bobster, you really do make this stuff up at you go.
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Old 08-22-2024, 09:55 AM
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Nope. I recall ribbing you every time Trump said it would be released in two weeks and you repeatedly assured me that it would be and that you were convinced that it would be an effective plan. Eight years later, we still don't have a plan, nor is it even addressed anymore by Trump and his party. Deny it all you want, but you know damn well what I'm saying is true.
Not that it matters for shit at this point, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case. But debate points are rather scarce for you lately so I'll let you have this one.

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What's funny is that you are insistent that this race should be about policy minutiae when presidential elections never are. They're about tone and general policy direction and thus far, Trump and the GOP are failing miserably. For them, it's all gloom and doom - America is a shithole country, Democrats are Godless communists, crime is up (when it's down), inflation is out of control (it's 2.9%), the economy is in shambles (the Dow sets daily records), the border is out of control (border crossings are the lowest in years), American manufacturing is suffering (while it's growing).

Meanwhile, Trump is unable to deliver any message other than his ridiculous "American carnage" bullshit along with mindless drivel about windmills, sharks and low flow faucets. Yet, that seems enough for you.
You're truly a lost human. Inflation just when back up above 3% two months ago, last month it was 2.9%. Who cares? Its still well above the Fed's target, and worse, the cumulative effective of post-pandemic inflation has certainly not relented by any stretch.

Now, you suggest policy doesn't matter. What I do remember is you and I debating the relative merits of the Trump tax cut, so I guess it mattered then and doesn't matter now? Spare me your selective indignation.

You stated a tax cut would be inflationary (it wasn't), it would screw up interest rates (it didn't), and plunge the government deeper into debt. On the latter account, we'll never really know because we had a pandemic. As a result, both the Trump and the Biden administrations blew the budgets for COVID relief spending (some of which has turned into a predictable government boondoggle).

We do know that government revenues increased beyond initial projections (which you denied was possible). You've denied my assertion that budget deficits aren't a revenue issue for the Federal Gov't, they are a spending issue. Yet, even though the government collected more revenues that anticipated, we're still looking at increasing debt. Sure sounds like a spending issue to me.

Here's where policy matters. Harris has stated that she would allow the Trump-era capital gains tax cut reduction to expire. Certainly the economy is better than it was a year or two ago but its still not great. Does raising the capital gains tax to 28% (Harris previously stated she wanted to see 35%) sound like a good idea to you?
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Old 08-22-2024, 10:48 AM
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What are you babbling about now? When exactly did I bash McCain's service?

Dang, Bobster, you really do make this stuff up at you go.
You bash McCain's service every time you tout the "achievements" of your Dear Leader. Trump is a draft dodger who hated McCain for his service and honesty.

You have done absolutely nothing for your country so far as anyone can tell, and you incessantly support this despicable draft dodger, felon, rapist and traitor.
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Old 08-22-2024, 10:52 AM
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I am not an economist of course, but I am wondering which is better.

Tax and spend or Tax Cuts and spend. Which financial strategy leads to more deficits?

And speaking of inflation, Trump's MAGA hats now cost $40.00 in case anyone here is thinking of buying.
IIRC, they used to sell for around $20.00 and then when he lost, one could buy one on eBay for $5.00.

Or is it the Trump's China 100% tariffs that jacked up the price.
And if its China paying for the tariffs, why is it costing $40 instead of $20. Or is this Voodoo economics that I recall form the distant past.
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