Kamala Harris For President!

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

What will Jesus Johnson and his Evangelical whackjobs say?

Well, according to Finn, then”thoughtful” ones are voting for Harris, so no issues here.

[Oerets]

What we have it sure seems in this country is one party that to be a member you must be in total agreement with a single man.

So when they are faced with another party that can have differing views and opinions. Are allowed to voice them and not be then shunned.

They then have a hard time comprehending that fact.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

1. You are full of shit again.

Michigan your home state: Voters enshrined abortion protections in the state Constitution in 2022.

Ohio, your neighboring state and deep red: Voters enshrined abortion protections in the state Constitution in 2023.

I’m full of shit, but you think Ohio is a “red” state? Why do you think they call it a “swing” or “battleground” state?

Yes, abortion will be on the minds of voters in 2024. But if the you and/or the Dems think that’s the only issue on voter’s minds, they’re quite mistaken.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Oerets

What we have it sure seems in this country is one party that to be a member you must be in total agreement with a single man.

So when they are faced with another party that can have differing views and opinions. Are allowed to voice them and not be then shunned.

They then have a hard time comprehending that fact.

Yep, it’s pretty hard to find pro-lifers amongst elected Democrats. No pro-life voices allowed.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by whell

I'm sure you and yours believe that. No one else does. Or they watched the autocratic behavior of the Dems over the last 4 years and decided that there’s not much difference.



Ok, I get it. You support her because she isn’t Trump, and the fact that you have no idea what she stands for is irrelevant to you.


A “party platform” is just marketing. It doesn’t always correlate to what an elected official believes in, or what they may or may not do in office. You get that, right? Or is “wait for the convention” just the current Dem talking point?

A tad unfair to throw that 'you have no idea' out there isn't it? You don't know what he knows, just like your true motives here can only be supposed. But all you actually know is that he didn't provide a list for you to criticize. I can imagine a number of likely motives for that, but "I don't know" is not the explanation that occurrs to me first.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

I’m full of shit, but you think Ohio is a “red” state? Why do you think they call it a “swing” or “battleground” state?

Yes, abortion will be on the minds of voters in 2024. But if the you and/or the Dems think that’s the only issue on voter’s minds, they’re quite mistaken.

Man, you are living in yesterday, but let me refresh your knowledge.

All 99 seats in the Ohio House of Representatives were up for election in 2022. The chamber's Republican supermajority increased from 64-35 to 67-32.

Seventeen of the state Senate's 33 seats were up for election in 2022. The chamber's Republican supermajority increased from 25-8 to 26-7.

Governors since 1991 have been Republican except for one term of a Dem governor.

Yes, Ohio did vote for Clinton's and Obama's two terms in office but the state has been turning purple but if you want to call this a swing state, be my guest.

Info from Ballot

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

A “party platform” is just marketing. It doesn’t always correlate to what an elected official believes in, or what they may or may not do in office. You get that, right? Or is “wait for the convention” just the current Dem talking point?

And campaign promises made in press conferences and interviews are more credible than a platform? Like Trump's 2,000 mile big, beautiful wall at Mexico's expense? Or repealing and replacing Obamacare (something I specifically remember you believing)? How about an infrastructure bill? And balancing the budget in 5 years? These were the "policies" that Trump campaigned on.

Elections aren't about lengthy policy papers, something Democrats have been slow to understand. Dems have historically come off as too wonky and policy driven, whereas Republicans go for emotional appeal, even if it's mostly lies. And right now, emotional appeal is working in spades for Harris.

I don't think she's too concerned about MAGAWorld's insincere and impatient demands for lengthy policy prescriptions at the moment. She's having too much fun watching the Trump campaign implode. It's indeed quite a sight.

[RickeyM]

Guys, he's just throwing shit against the wall to see who'll bite. The only reason he wants for anyone to state any position(s) Kamala Harris has is to throw more shit against the wall (and call it a discussion) to see who'll bite.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

I’m full of shit, but you think Ohio is a “red” state? Why do you think they call it a “swing” or “battleground” state?

Yes, abortion will be on the minds of voters in 2024. But if the you and/or the Dems think that’s the only issue on voter’s minds, they’re quite mistaken.

FYI, he's right.

COLUMBUS, Ohio (WSYX) — Right off the top, let’s cut to the chase — when it comes to presidential politics, the Buckeye state ain’t what it used to be. Retired OSU Political Science Professor Dr. Paul Beck sums it up like this:

"We are no longer a swing state — which means candidates are not going to campaign here as much as they used to. They used to come here all the time.”


https://www.abc6onyourside.com/news/...-2024-politics

https://time.com/7009161/battlegroun...2024-election/

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Yep, it’s pretty hard to find pro-lifers amongst elected Democrats. No pro-life voices allowed.

They're allowed (i.e., they're not excommunicated, like NeverTrump RINO heretics), but they don't hold any sway nor are they popular with young and/or female voters, a big part of the Democratic coalition.

Also, pro-choice doesn't mean pro-abortion. It means keeping the government out of your bedroom and doctor's office (i.e., minding your own damned business), which used to be a conservative ideal. One can be pro-choice and personally oppose abortion, which I do (and my oldest son is testament to it). I don't have any interest, however, in imposing these beliefs on anyone else.