The Biden Economy

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

DOW, S&P and NASDAQ are down big today at midday. They've actually come off lows hit earlier in the day: the DOW was actually down 1200 at one point this morning.

Way to go, Joe!

“The Donald Trump thing and the market amazes me. When they’re up, it’s all because of him, and they’re looking forward to him. When they’re down, it’s all because of the Democrats and how horrific they are. Yet, of our biggest-point falloffs – three of the biggest top 10 occurred during his administration. Now, a lot of those were in the Covid years. I get that. But you know, you either own the markets or you don’t. It does confuse me.”

- Neil Cavuto, Fox News

[Chicks]

The 'Trump trade' is fading
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-t...214945014.html

And just like that, the “Trump trade” has lost all momentum.

Donny for Leavenworth 2024!

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

“The Donald Trump thing and the market amazes me. When they’re up, it’s all because of him, and they’re looking forward to him. When they’re down, it’s all because of the Democrats and how horrific they are. Yet, of our biggest-point falloffs – three of the biggest top 10 occurred during his administration. Now, a lot of those were in the Covid years. I get that. But you know, you either own the markets or you don’t. It does confuse me.”

- Neil Cavuto, Fox News

So you're saying Joe really does own this shaky economy, including the Monday stock slide?

[whell]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Who said the rape was a felony? Not me. You really can’t read, can you?

Oh, I have no trouble reading. Your post above chided me for not agreeing that Trumps is "a convicted felon and rapist", and that I must think its "fake news". Now you're suggesting you didn't say that?

A "rapist" is one who commits rape, unless you and your fellow travelers are trying to change the definition. Every state, including New York where a particular civil judgement was reached, says that rape is a felony.

So, you called Trump a "rapist". Seems pretty clear to me that you were making the allegation. Now, just to help you out, here's what really happened in the civil trial:

This is a civil case, not a criminal one. The jury was not asked to find Trump "guilty" or "not guilty," but whether he was liable for an attack on Carroll. They had several alternative verdicts to consider.

In written instructions, U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan asked jurors to decide whether the "preponderance of the evidence" shows that Trump "raped," "sexually abused," or "forcibly touched" Carroll. The jury checked "no" on the rape question.

So, Carroll didn't prove a case for "rape", even using the much lower bar that exists in civil proceedings.

There, did that clear things up for you? Or do you prefer your own unique interpretation of the facts?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

So you're saying Joe really does own this shaky economy, including the Monday stock slide?

FYI, I'm not Neil Cavuto.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

FYI, I'm not Neil Cavuto.

No, but you're quoting him.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Oh, I have no trouble reading. Your post above chided me for not agreeing that Trumps is "a convicted felon and rapist", and that I must think its "fake news". Now you're suggesting you didn't say that?

He didn't say that Trump was a convicted felon and a convicted rapist. He said he was a convicted felon and a rapist. He most certainly is a convicted felon and the presiding judge said he could correctly be referred to as a rapist in the common understanding of the word.

If you really want to die on the hill of "sexual assault with forced digital penetration" (something Trump brags about doing) isn't rape, have at it. It just shows how defending Trump leads you down the path of defending the indefensible. Congratulations for having arrived at that point (not that you weren't already there).

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

He didn't say that Trump was a convicted felon and a convicted rapist. He said he was a convicted felon and a rapist.

Why are you dancing on the head of a pin about this?

Rapist: one who commits rape.

Rape: Felony.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Why are you dancing on the head of a pin about this?

Rapist: one who commits rape.

Rape: Felony.

Yet you're the one adamantly defending a proven sexual predator whose actions the presiding judge characterized as rape.

[Human]

Originally Posted by whell

Why are you dancing on the head of a pin about this?

Rapist: one who commits rape.

Rape: Felony.

If it was your daughter that Trump did this to, I suspect you'd have a different view.

Step back for a moment and consider what you are defending here. Are you really comfortable with this?